Wireless Vehicle Conectivity

[Tue Ta]

no one claim that their scanner have all the answer, it just me that claim that i have all the answers....
no come back, 100% CUSTOMER SASTIFACTION.
and may be you guy have bad luck with your machine, may be a lemon or something, mine had been excellent, can't say that for the SO verus, lock up all the time, Blue screen of death all the time( or may be just all the porn i downloaded) but ya no complain on any other scanner though,
its the technician, not the tool....
and yes bluetooth wire is very accurate, if you want to see a real tech at work come to my shop and i will so you.... don't blame the tool when you can't work around it....

[66superduty]

ok when i bought my verus there was no extension cable available an wasnt gonna be one. it has to be a red cable, not a black one .so if your catalog has a part # for a red verus cable please let me have the part #.. thanks

[kebo1970]

no one claim that their scanner have all the answer, it just me that claim that i have all the answers....
no come back, 100% CUSTOMER SASTIFACTION.
and may be you guy have bad luck with your machine, may be a lemon or something, mine had been excellent, can't say that for the SO verus, lock up all the time, Blue screen of death all the time( or may be just all the porn i downloaded) but ya no complain on any other scanner though,
its the technician, not the tool....
and yes bluetooth wire is very accurate, if you want to see a real tech at work come to my shop and i will so you.... don't blame the tool when you can't work around it....

if you watch the verus video; it claims to have all the answers. i've worked at some top level shops and know some pretty good techs; i have yet to meet anyone that has no comebacks at all. the guy changing oil has a no comeback record for a week or two but at some point even he makes a mistake. lets not get personal; let your customers bragg about your work, it means nothing when you do it. i don't compliment myself on ability; i've worked at a top level shop, i did'nt say i was one of the top level techs. i made a mistake on the verus extension cable(66superduty).

[Tue Ta]

i like to bragg just because i can, i am just that good... you know.. had to let the world know, can't hide my skills. thats why just after getting my tickets for 2 years i got my own shop, and now working in it a couple hours aday and still rocks, by the way my customer compliment me all the time, anyone in here want to pay me a visit to see my skill pm me i'll give the address

[eddiesverus]

Ok guys, I'm sure we all like to brag and I'm sure we are all fine technicians or else we wouldn't be in this forum braging about it. I like to brag as well. but the whole point about this forum is wireless as an option to the already made VERUS. yes I know S/O needs to fix its software first and I totally agree in that, I get upset every time I need to reboot the unit, but thats what I wanted when I decided to spend 10g's on it. I knew it was going to be a pain, but I wanted the new technology. Like I said earlier in this post, there is no perfect tool out there, snap on. otc, bosch, lunch, teradyne, bdm, ect. they all have there problems. that why I don't brag about having a perfect tool. I brag about fixing the car right the 1st time and have a low comeback rate. no one is perfect but I'm proud of it. and in having many scan tools gives me more productivity in being able not to turn down customers or repairs because I don't have the proper tool. I learned by experience, training and updates. I go to every training seminar in my area, and I like to learn everyday, I always make time to train myself because that my best tool.. how many of you guy take time to train or update yourself's if there is time?? I have 2 techs working for me and when I invite them to a seminar even if I'm paying for them they never have time.. it's sad to see that newer techs think that way. all they want is to have fun. Older Techs may have more experience but still lack training for new technology already out their. And no we won't see points and condenser back, will be seeing laser ignitions system, direct fuel injections system ect. Pretty soon will see those new vehicle roll in for service. I better be ready...

[Joe Rappa]

As I've stated before on these forums, I definitely don't speak for Snap-on. Not any more than you guys do, but I'd still like to throw in my 2 cents here.

An awful lot of the features that Technicians asked for on this particular forum appear in later software updates. Snap-on has been doing a great job of that for about 2 years now, so if you're asking for it here, I promise that Snap-on is considering it.

Corporate Snap-on has never-not-once repsonded to a request here. This is a user forum, where Techs help other Techs, and not where you get answers or feedback. Just because you don't hear a reply doesn't mean it's not coming. Need to convince yourself? Read some old posts, then check the new features of the last three updates. Do we get everthing we ask for? Of course not, but just because you don't get a response here doesn't mean it's not coming.

Also, if a competitor has a scanner feature that helps them sell scanners(like wireless), you can bet that Snap-on is working to level the playing field. Any business would do the same thing, if they wanted to stay in business.

So, is Snap-on coming out with a wireless connection? I truly don't know, but it's a smart bet they they're working on it. Is someone from Corporate going to come on this forum and announce it? Not if they're smart.

Joe

PS: I told you it was only 2 cents worth!

[Steve6911]

Wow, I take a few days off (couple of extra too! ) and I missed A LOT on theses forums! I have to agree with Jay on the point that slower, (wired) correct data is worth more then fast (wireless) data with errors. I have a PC based scanner that offered Bluetooth and I figured I’d give it a try. After several weeks of no/poor connections then good connections and back again, myself and the other company figured out it was the fluorescent lights and/or the wireless phones in the shop causing the problem. The tool would lock up and give me all kinds of incorrect info. That was two years ago, maybe they have improved it by now but it was enough for me to shy away from this. This company is also all over the board trying this then that, releasing half done software. My thoughts are get the software right first then add toys. Wireless would be GREAT as I HATE cables hanging all over, but a better accurate scanner is more important (IMO). I do not have the Verus (yet), It took me awhile to purchase my Modis. New tools ALWAYS have growing pains and any of you that remember when the Modis came out know it had it’s share. It’s still not perfect BUT IMO it is the best all in one box on the market! As Joe stated these forums are from Tech to Tech however many times when no answer or a wrong answers are given S.O. steps in. And I can tell you for a fact that S.O. is listening, I as well as others asked for the GM purge and seal tests and Nissan’s idle air volume relearn, they are now in the tools. I have contacted S.O. about problems to have found them corrected on the next release. The fix is not instantaneous as the problem must be verified, fixed and the fix verified before it is put in the release. And again to agree with Joe, why would S.O. just be sitting on their hands and let other manufactures get ahead of them, who would by their tool? People don’t understand how much is in these all in one boxes and how a fix in one place can cause problems in another, things take time (and maybe longer then we would like!) and I am sure the fixes are coming.


My 2 cents

Steve

[kebo1970]

i would like to know how much you guys are willing to pay for a tool with all of the features we've just argued; how much is too much? the verus is $10,000, the modis is about $8000 and what about updates and accessories that are not included. there is a point where the cost of equipment can't be justified; remember a shop has lifts, compressors, air tools, transmission flush machine,coolant flush machine and a/c equipment. are we willing to spend $20,000 on just diagnostic tools? the verus(10grand), sai ignition adapter without the test leads($1500), low amp probe($360), coil on plug adapters(($400), pressure transducers($360 each), updates($1,000) euro(extra) , pass thru programming device($1500), smoke machine($800), mitchell(lease only), foam inserts for your toolbox($$$),tool carts($$$), extra batteries, protective skins, etc.

[eddiesverus]

i would like to know how much you guys are willing to pay for a tool with all of the features we've just argued; how much is too much? the verus is $10,000, the modis is about $8000 and what about updates and accessories that are not included. there is a point where the cost of equipment can't be justified; remember a shop has lifts, compressors, air tools, transmission flush machine,coolant flush machine and a/c equipment. are we willing to spend $20,000 on just diagnostic tools? the verus(10grand), sai ignition adapter without the test leads($1500), low amp probe($360), coil on plug adapters(($400), pressure transducers($360 each), updates($1,000) euro(extra) , pass thru programming device($1500), smoke machine($800), mitchell(lease only), foam inserts for your toolbox($$$),tool carts($$$), extra batteries, protective skins, etc.

Yes I know we spend lots of money on new diagnostic equipment. and I know Snap On is the most Expensive, but Information is whats expensive not the tools or equipment, S/O supplies more info and that's what we are paying for. We will always be spending money for new info as long as we are working on cars. unless you are buying pirated info? Many smart shop owners and top technicians know that we need to spend money to make money. I wish so otherwise, but the automotive industry is this way and information is getting more expensive and without new info we can't fix whats out there. I hope that Some day this changes, but unfortunately cars are getting more complicated and its seems like it will never happen. What good does a $100 code reader do if you don't have the service information to properly diagnose and fix the vehicle?? you get my point? So as long as good tools with info are out there we will be spending money on them. wireless or wired..

[kebo1970]

Verus Extension Cable

The Verus 6 Foot Extension Cable(EAX0066L30A)

[aautomaan]

can someone explain to me what "bluetooth wire" is. must be the latest and greatest since it's coming from a no comeback 100% customer safisfaction top level tech. did they make bluetooth perfect because they put a wire between point a and point b. that's just genius......i'm just sayin...

[Steve6911]

can someone explain to me what "bluetooth wire" is. must be the latest and greatest since it's coming from a no comeback 100% customer safisfaction top level tech. did they make bluetooth perfect because they put a wire between point a and point b. that's just genius......i'm just sayin...

Could you please clarify what you are talking about?

[David Green]

I thought Blue Tooth was the new idea regarding wireless connections, i.e some specified radio frequency.

I use blue tooth everyday in wireless mode as it is designed, but must say it is far from perfect, and I dread the day that vehicles go wireless, the ABS will put the radio on and the central door locking will activate the throttle, and the tyre pressure monitoring will tell the fuel tank that its full of air

But then I suppose it will have its good points

UK David

[aautomaan]

no one claim that their scanner have all the answer, it just me that claim that i have all the answers....
no come back, 100% CUSTOMER SASTIFACTION.
and may be you guy have bad luck with your machine, may be a lemon or something, mine had been excellent, can't say that for the SO verus, lock up all the time, Blue screen of death all the time( or may be just all the porn i downloaded) but ya no complain on any other scanner though,
its the technician, not the tool....
and yes bluetooth wire is very accurate, if you want to see a real tech at work come to my shop and i will so you.... don't blame the tool when you can't work around it....

i was poking fun at Tue Ta about "bluetooth wire"

[Tue Ta]

i was poking fun at Tue Ta about "bluetooth wire"

hey, so you fail as a technician... not all of us is as useless as you.
go back to you carb, and hand crank vehicle...
thank you come again