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Old 03-12-2018, 01:12 PM
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I say F@ck GM on double dipping on other shops if the 2 years on the VIN is already paid for
Make sure to tell your customers you don't want to work on GM vehicles.
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Make sure to tell your customers you don't want to work on GM vehicles.
If my China man tool don't work to get a some used salvage yard module to work, I will set up a customer with their own separate GM account for their VIN and have them pay GM with their own credit card and if my POS, Chinaman Jbox don't work to Get Turd done , I'll send the P@ssed Off Customer your way so you can sell them a new $1000 ECM for their $1500 car and you won't need to buy another sub. A couple more years, you hook a battery maintainer to the GM cars and On Star will do the rest by satellite communication and Jbox for GM wont even be required

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You are only allowed a certain number of PC's registered to your account, 4 comes to mind but don't quote me on that. This number goes back to all the PC's you have used with that account. GM thinks it stops Sub sharing
GM allows 3 PCs per account.Most brands only allow one per account or "licence".If you replace a PC and your account is full you have to call and have a mac addy removed in order to add a new one.
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GM allows 3 PCs per account.Most brands only allow one per account or "licence".If you replace a PC and your account is full you have to call and have a mac addy removed in order to add a new one.
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I think keeping track of separate accounts and number of PCs is utter BS. The VIN idea, capped at $60 a car for Lifetime Programming Access across the board any tech anywhere can then install and program a new or used PCM , key and remote programming for free 5 years or 10 years , or even 20 years down the road, VIN One time fee, Lifetime access to programming( including keys and remotes.) Maybe $10 per visit for 2 days to access Virtual MDI-2 and $10 for 2 day access to VIN specific factory service manuals and wiring diagrams might be reasonable. Require all makes sold in the USA Including Euro and Asian Makes if customer wants Indy to work on car, he pays the $60 for the release of his VIN # for lifetime programming access (INCLUDING KEYS AND REMOTES).The customer should also also be able to retrieve his or her vehicle PIN and key cut code should it be needed with his VIN already PRE Paid, as well as anyone with an LSID. Make things easier, especially if you could toss a battery maintainer on the car and say" On Star , Check for available module calibration updates" and On Star Presently might have capability to tell a tech if newer module calibrations are available or not, and newer model cars with On Star might be soon be able to update every module on the car instead of Gomer Cobbling a F'N Jbox to do simple calibration updates."Golly Jee, So That Thar Jbox is the Tranzmishion for da Tranzmishion?

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I have dreams too.Everything has a cost,it's good for me that the OEMs make as much available to the aftermarket as they do.
The "per account/per licence" deal is for dealerships as well.
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Lol, where's the cold beer?
I can actually forsee GM in a few years with the OnStar actually keeping a car with a cold engine in Park for one minute and pitching product Commercials like at the newer gas pumps for 60 seconds before the car will engage in gear, and that you should take advantage of available GM calibration updates and security updates for your car's computer systems while there , and get your free Dunkin dognut special when you buy a medium coffee if you hold your smart phone over the dot matrix symbol on your car's information center. The entertainment centers will download entertainment geared to your children with Cars cartoon movies showing all the GM model cars as the good guys and the competition models as the rusty smokers and the bad guys of the movies to program their future customers.
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The dealerships have to $40 a pop too ? I hope they atleast get break on the warranty flashes.
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So here is what it looks like when you sign up your second vehicle. It saves the VIN of the previous vehicles.
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The dealerships have to $40 a pop too ? I hope they atleast get break on the warranty flashes.
No.They pay yearly and at a different rate than we do.The amount of PCs per account/licence is what I was referring to.
They really don't get a lot of breaks though and don't have a choice of which diagnostic tools to buy or to some extent,how many.Hyundai for example no longer supports the GDS,now it's GDS Mobile,based on Samsung tablets and dealers have to have at least two at around $4000 cdn a pop.
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