WHEN WORKING UNDER A LARGE VEHICLE OR IN THE ENGINE COMPARTMENT, THE DLC CABLE HAS US LIMITED. I WOULD LIKE A VCI LIKE DEVICE TO WIRELESS CONNECT TO THE VEHICLE'S DLC TO PERFORM TESTING WHEN NEEDED AND STILL HAVE A WIRED CONNECTION AS A BACKUP BUT WITHOUT THE PERSONALITY KEYS AND STILL BE ABLE TO DO FLASH PROGRAMING. I HAVE THE VERUS AND I USE THE BOSCH/VETRONIX VCI DEVICE TO CONNECT WHEN I NEED THE FREEDOM OF WIRES BY USEING BOSCH'S SOFTWARE AND VERUS WIFI. I SEE IT POSSIBLE FOR SNAP ON TO USE SUCH A WIRELESS DEVICE USING WIFI OR BLUETOOTH CENNECTIVITY FOR THE VERUS AND STILL USE THE DIAGNOSTIC SUITE SOFTWARE TO RUN DIAGNOSTICS. THIS WOULD BE SNAP ON'S GRATEST THING AND BLOW AWAY THE COMPETITION. OTC HAS SUCH TECHNOILGY OUT FOR BOTH PC AND HANDHELED UNITS, WHY CAN'T SNAP ON DO IT....
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I have worked with the OTC Pegisys, and it is not all that it claims. If you consider that newer vehicles will be using faster communication protocols as technology progresses, the wireless standard will not be able to keep up. Also consider that every wireless device in your area is going to affect speed / reception of your device. I agree the Personality keys are sometimes a pain, but I would rather have fast acurate data than be free from a cable. I would also argue that trying to do wireless scoping of a sensor or circuit is useless, since what you are trying to see happens in mili or micro seconds, and no such technology exits in wireless standards, yet.S. Breland -
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I used to be a nissan master tech, i had use nissan consult 3 with is a laptop base with bluetooth wireless VI the wireless is flawless, communication even faster than consult 2 which connected through wire, no lag when it come to communicating with the vehicle, fast enough to program through wireless.
no interference with any other bluetooth device, only lock on to the specific coded bluetooth VI and/or MI that initial link to the scanner.Comment
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I used to be a nissan master tech, i had use nissan consult 3 with is a laptop base with bluetooth wireless VI the wireless is flawless, communication even faster than consult 2 which connected through wire, no lag when it come to communicating with the vehicle, fast enough to program through wireless.
no interference with any other bluetooth device, only lock on to the specific coded bluetooth VI and/or MI that initial link to the scanner.
RELIABLE ACCURATE datastream is FAR MORE inportant than speed or ease of use. WRONG DATA is worse than NO data ANYTIME.
Ya, wireless might be nice but I'd rather get the CORRECT information and they're still working on THAT, along with adding in more vehicle modules and bi-directional controls. I'd rather they GET THEM RIGHT than have wireless.Comment
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like I said, its not that wireless is not readily available and accurate, it all come down to cost....bluetooth technology is very stable and accurate now aday, snapon just need to invest in it a little more... otc scanner is not using bluetooth, they save cost by using wifi.. data accuracy is not an issue with blue tooth, snapon charge an arm and a leg for the verus, they could push a little for bluetooth, please note.. i already said blue tooth is really accurate..... it just how much snapon willing to spend to work with it.....Comment
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please explain to me how wireless will help you fix more cars. reliable info is far more important than wireless toys that don't really increase shop production. i have not heard of or know of any shop with wireless capabilities that had a 20 percent increase in shop production. take the verus; you have to spend nearly $10,000 for a machine that still needs improvements. lets get the kinks out of what we have now before we open up another can of worms(wireless). i still use the brick(7.4 update) and the vantage pro(8.4) and i still find mistakes in the software. when you drop the verus; trust me someone will, now your diagnostic capabilities are zero. not a fan of an all in one toolLast edited by kebo1970; 08-28-2009, 10:04 PM.Comment
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please explain to me how wireless will help you fix more cars. reliable info is far more important than wireless toys that don't really increase shop production. i have not heard of or know of any shop with wireless capabilities that had a 20 percent increase in shop production. take the verus; you have to spend nearly $10,000 for a machine that still needs improvements. lets get the kinks out of what we have now before we open up another can of worms(wireless). i still use the brick(7.4 update) and the vantage pro(8.4) and i still find mistakes in the software. when you drop the verus; trust me someone will, now your diagnostic capabilities are zero. not a fan of an all in one tool
Anyone can get the wrong information for free at the corner coffee shop-LOLComment
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well it not the wireless that send the wrong information, it the system and the software. As we were discussing about wireless reliability, not how reliable snap on scanner system is, we can sit here for the next ten years discussing, how many faults snapon software and hardware have. if snapon make a complete scanner their engineer would be out of workComment
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if snap on won't make a scanner with a cord thats flawless; how can a wireless scanner with mistakes be more productive? wireless may be coming ,but the question still remains; how can a wireless scanner make you more productive? don't tell me about freedom to walk 30 feet from the vehicle and still diagnose it or diagnose a vehicle while in the office. give me an answer that will really add to the bottom line(money)!!!Comment
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well it not the wireless that send the wrong information, it the system and the software. As we were discussing about wireless reliability, not how reliable snap on scanner system is, we can sit here for the next ten years discussing, how many faults snapon software and hardware have. if snapon make a complete scanner their engineer would be out of work
Which one helps us actually FIX the car?? In fact, improper data actually COSTS US money because with the wrong information, we make wrong repair decisions, and what does that lead to?.... Wasted time, and THAT costs us and the shops and the customers money, and ultimately costs our entire industry credibility.
It's a matter of priorities, fixing the car, or being easy to get wrong, incomplete or inaccurate information.
Oh, and BTW, this discussion didn't start with wireless reliability, it started with wireles AVAILABILITY.Comment
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for me ,i would like to have wireless. i dont like rolling my cart around, because i have a printer in the bottom, and i have a big screen in the top. if i take the verus out of the cart i have to sit in a hot car waiting for full operation mode to get going. and if i walk away for some reason i have to worry about someone running off with my verus,are damageing the cable are keys if they move a door are shut it for some reason. every new thing that has come along in the last 35 yrs has caused us who have stayed to get smater and more tech savey then the naah sayers,and that in turn gets you more productive in the long run. when something new came over the hill we all had growing pains.Comment
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you mean to tell me that if you did'nt have to sit in a hot car waiting on the verus to boot up, you would be more productive? theft of tools has nothing to do with cords or wireless. lets be real; all i see for now with wireless is bragging rights, glitter,and glamor. i live in hou,texas and you can't get away from the heat unless you have air conditioned bays. eddisverus and 66superduty; i have no doubt you guys are fine techs but, none of what you've stated about wireless adds more free time or money to our lives. lets try one more time; HOW CAN A WIRELESS SCANNER GET A VEHICLE PROPERLY DIAGNOSED BETTER THAN ONE WITH A CORD?Last edited by kebo1970; 08-30-2009, 08:22 AM.Comment
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for automotive use wireless is pretty convienence, not too sure about the productivity, its all depend on the technician capability to diagnose the problem, does not mater how good the tool is, if the guy who use it does not know how to use it then reguardless of wire or wireless productivity will not increase. As for me, i like to have wireless capability since it allow me to walk away from the vehicle with the scan tool, don't like to sit in the vehicle.
I am not speaking for anyone but me here but i find wireless suit me very well, i like the freedom, and i do have a better efficiency time with wireless connectivity, and yes, me, no one else... cause i see this forum a lot of guy still love to get stuck to the vehicle they are working on.
one other note on wireless connectivity, i do see a future for multi vehicle connection for sensor comparation, cause dealers are heading that way.
ps: me, me, me..... its all about meComment
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Which would you prefer the software people spend their time on.... OOOOHH-GLITZ----GLAMOUR???? Or rock solid proper data & information!!!
Which one helps us actually FIX the car?? In fact, improper data actually COSTS US money because with the wrong information, we make wrong repair decisions, and what does that lead to?.... Wasted time, and THAT costs us and the shops and the customers money, and ultimately costs our entire industry credibility.
It's a matter of priorities, fixing the car, or being easy to get wrong, incomplete or inaccurate information.
Oh, and BTW, this discussion didn't start with wireless reliability, it started with wireles AVAILABILITY.Comment
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you mean to tell me that if you did'nt have to sit in a hot car waiting on the verus to boot up, you would be more productive? theft of tools has nothing to do with cords or wireless. lets be real; all i see for now with wireless is bragging rights, glitter,and glamor. i live in hou,texas and you can't get away from the heat unless you have air conditioned bays. eddisverus and 66superduty; i have no doubt you guys are fine techs but, none of what you've stated about wireless adds more free time or money to our lives. lets try one more time; HOW CAN A WIRELESS SCANNER GET A VEHICLE PROPERLY DIAGNOSED BETTER THAN ONE WITH A CORD?Hard Work, commitment, Honesty and not giving up is what Makes us better Tech'sComment
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