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  • antthecat
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2014
    • 29

    Thinking of what the next scanner will be like.

    Just wondering what the next offering from Snap On would be.

    I'm thinking it would be a cloud based software portal, a Bluetooth vehicle interface like the Zeus uses and a optional Bluetooth meter/scope like the verdict uses.

    With the software being cloud any glitches/bugs can be fixed quickly, no need to wait for the next update bundle.

    There could be options for different levels of subscription/access but if something out of the package is required (ie if you don't have subs for special functions but you need to use a particular function for a fix) then a small charge for the function.

    Perhaps a pick and choose of the marques you require and if a oddball does come in then one click and you have coverage for the oddball for a week.

    Or will they re-jazz a current scanner with a different name.
  • kirkbarrow.garage
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2015
    • 149

    #2
    Originally posted by antthecat
    Just wondering what the next offering from Snap On would be.

    I'm thinking it would be a cloud based software portal, a Bluetooth vehicle interface like the Zeus uses and a optional Bluetooth meter/scope like the verdict uses.

    With the software being cloud any glitches/bugs can be fixed quickly, no need to wait for the next update bundle.

    There could be options for different levels of subscription/access but if something out of the package is required (ie if you don't have subs for special functions but you need to use a particular function for a fix) then a small charge for the function.

    Perhaps a pick and choose of the marques you require and if a oddball does come in then one click and you have coverage for the oddball for a week.

    Or will they re-jazz a current scanner with a different name.


    Re-jazz the Modis with much more specialty functions, would love re revamped MT2500 or MTG 2500 but think they have slightly lacking in RAM and CPU functions to be a good choice

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    • Witsend
      Banned
      • Nov 2012
      • 2942

      #3
      Thinking of what the next scanner will be like.
      Just wondering what the next offering from Snap On would be.

      I'm thinking it would be a cloud based software portal, a Bluetooth vehicle interface like the Zeus uses and a optional Bluetooth meter/scope like the verdict uses.

      With the software being cloud any glitches/bugs can be fixed quickly, no need to wait for the next update bundle.

      There could be options for different levels of subscription/access but if something out of the package is required (ie if you don't have subs for special functions but you need to use a particular function for a fix) then a small charge for the function.

      Perhaps a pick and choose of the marques you require and if a oddball does come in then one click and you have coverage for the oddball for a week.

      Or will they re-jazz a current scanner with a different name.
      I think the Brass and the Powers That Be are ultimately going to get greedy and Spin off a good Chunk of Snap On Diagnostics (Scan tool side) to the Highest Bidder along with the Right to use the coveted Snappy trade mark name.
      A small number of folk will stay on to correct the Chinglish and maintain integrity of the Sure Track Trouble Shooter Hand Holding side of tool. It might even be called The Snap-A-Sys. Problem is you'll have to get it updated on Snappy Casino River Boats instead of the Snappy Truck because it's the only way you'll be able to circumvent The new Scanner Update Tariff

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      • Wheel
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2007
        • 719

        #4
        Originally posted by antthecat
        Just wondering what the next offering from Snap On would be.

        I'm thinking it would be a cloud based software portal, a Bluetooth vehicle interface like the Zeus uses and a optional Bluetooth meter/scope like the verdict uses.

        With the software being cloud any glitches/bugs can be fixed quickly, no need to wait for the next update bundle.

        There could be options for different levels of subscription/access but if something out of the package is required (ie if you don't have subs for special functions but you need to use a particular function for a fix) then a small charge for the function.

        Perhaps a pick and choose of the marques you require and if a oddball does come in then one click and you have coverage for the oddball for a week.

        Or will they re-jazz a current scanner with a different name.
        I feel any aftermarket scanner that is completely dependent on the internet to work is doomed or certainly should be.
        You couldn't pay ME to use one let alone get me to pay anything for it. One of the redeeming qualities of the aftermarket scanner is that it is still self-contained offering many advantages over anything cloud - internet based
        (read married to the shop and a slave to internet availability and glitches).
        Now you might see them come out with the built in ability to receive internet on their own such as some smart phones have, which has some advantages.
        If I were forced to use a scanner married to the internet it would be oe only
        as I would no longer have any incentive to use an aftermarket scanner, unless it were self-contained and internet independent.


        One thing you can be assured of, however, if Snap On corporate trends continue as in the past is that useful features we take for granted in present tools and software will be either removed or lobotomized - for example features the Vantage pro had that are conspicuously missing from its successor - and that is only one example.

        I would urge them to fill holes in coverage, restore the useful features
        (Windows based platforms at least) robbed from us as of 10.4 and after,
        and since by adding Harley Davidson they started down the slippery slope of motorcycle and powersport coverage, to continue to do so by adding the other manufacturers at least as an option and maybe including coverage for small engine efi (Briggs, Kohler, etc)
        You can expect the reputation of your business to be no better than the cheapest item or service you are willing to sell. - Wheel

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        • Wheel
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2007
          • 719

          #5
          Originally posted by kirkbarrow.garage
          Re-jazz the Modis with much more specialty functions, would love re revamped MT2500 or MTG 2500 but think they have slightly lacking in RAM and CPU functions to be a good choice
          One of the greatest advantages the old brick STILL has over any of its successors is the ability to pop in the previous year's cartridge and get back to work when the latest and greatest update just happened to screw up the scanner's
          capabilities - that worked just fine last update - on the rig you are now working on and HAVE to get done right now.
          You can expect the reputation of your business to be no better than the cheapest item or service you are willing to sell. - Wheel

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          • GypsyR
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2017
            • 287

            #6
            I'm already seeing a scanner not being able to tell me what I want because I am just slightly out of range of the shop's wifi. I just hotspot my phone and keep going but it's pretty darn annoying. Our fix will be a wifi repeater to better cover the property but it still feels kind of stupid that it's even an issue.

            They just out some kind of minor update to their latest and greatest. I noted it crashed and repeatedly crashed the heck out of Adobe reader for some reason. I'm afraid it's going to be like "Oh no, not another update" versus looking forward to getting fixes and maybe some holes in coverage filled. They don't seem to beta test for ****.

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            • kirkbarrow.garage
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2015
              • 149

              #7
              Originally posted by Wheel
              One of the greatest advantages the old brick STILL has over any of its successors is the ability to pop in the previous year's cartridge and get back to work when the latest and greatest update just happened to screw up the scanner's
              capabilities - that worked just fine last update - on the rig you are now working on and HAVE to get done right now.

              That would also be why I have full set ups of both MT2500 & MTG2500 and spare working bodies for both sets then

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              • sbreland73
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2009
                • 1076

                #8
                Originally posted by Wheel
                I feel any aftermarket scanner that is completely dependent on the internet to work is doomed or certainly should be.
                You couldn't pay ME to use one let alone get me to pay anything for it.
                The new Witech for Chrysler, Jeep, Dodge vehicles requires internet access to even start the software (uses Google Authentication). Once "logged in" the software, you may leave the internet to diagnose. Rumors around the OE design table are stating most manufactures are going this route to combat piracy.
                S. Breland

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                • Wheel
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 719

                  #9
                  Originally posted by sbreland73
                  The new Witech for Chrysler, Jeep, Dodge vehicles requires internet access to even start the software (uses Google Authentication). Once "logged in" the software, you may leave the internet to diagnose. Rumors around the OE design table are stating most manufactures are going this route to combat piracy.
                  That's the most plausible excuse, anyway. ALMOST believable, but not quite.
                  Just another way to exercise control over everyone I say. They never liked the idea of making their diagnostic tools available outside the dealership anyway. They'll do anything they can to make it hard for the aftermarket out of pure spite if nothing else. Personally I'd like to see a law that forces them to let you keep the diagnostic software you pay for - no timeouts, and no having to have internet every time you need to scan something to make it work. I CAN see them requiring you to update this software to the latest if you need a reflash from them, however, which I think one should pay the going rate for.
                  You can expect the reputation of your business to be no better than the cheapest item or service you are willing to sell. - Wheel

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                  • Witsend
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 2942

                    #10
                    Rumors around the OE design table are stating most manufactures are going this route to combat piracy.
                    The problem is that they are all Pirates and will even stick the wooden peg warranty times up their own techs Ga-zoos that work at the Stealer-ship.

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                    • Crusty
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 2450

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Witsend
                      The problem is that they are all Pirates and will even stick the wooden peg warranty times up their own techs Ga-zoos that work at the Stealer-ship.
                      The whole subscription thing with a FOREVER PAYMENT every month is quite simply a CASH GRAB.
                      Oh for the days when you purchase something, and it's YOURS, and it WORKS.
                      Do you want those four tires ON the car-?? No thanks, I'll eat 'em here...big chewy dohnuts.

                      There is a definitive need for STAND ALONE scanners.

                      Internet goes down....(Ya, it's always so reliable)

                      Websites go down on their own....Sorry Mr Jones, we can't even LOOK at your car for another three days while the website sorts out its latest "minor inconvenience".

                      Automatic updates creates ANOTHER conflict because every software update guru thinks THEIR software takes precedence over everything else that WAS operational in a computer, tablet, or cell phone (Naaaaw, THAT never happens-!!! wanna buy the Brooklyn Bridge.....)

                      Wi-Fi screws up....

                      Road tests that stray more then 1000 feet from the shop... (ya you can link to your cell phone but look out for data surcharges-!!)

                      One vehicle twice a year needing a SUBSCRIPTION to simply say hello....

                      Subscription Times all the different marques....
                      (30 marques at a measly 50 banana per month, x 12 months..a MERE 18,000 per year-!!!!) (I don't know of any that are a mere 50/month)

                      There is a definitive need for stand alone scanners-!!!!!!
                      It might even be nice if they actually DID what the advertising and promotion flyers say they'll do, but what am I thinking....

                      I just TRIED to change the CLOUR of a few words BUT THE SOFTWARE DOESN'T DO WHAT IT SHOULD...right here in this post....ya, software is SOOOO RELIABLE-!!

                      YES Joe, I'm off on another bender. (LMAO)

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                      • Witsend
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2012
                        • 2942

                        #12
                        YES Joe, I'm off on another bender. (LMAO)
                        Reply With Quote
                        Lol, it's the Holiday Weekend Bender.
                        Every one Merry Christmas
                        Last edited by Witsend; 12-24-2017, 09:24 AM.

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                        • Wheel
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 719

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Crusty
                          The whole subscription thing with a FOREVER PAYMENT every month is quite simply a CASH GRAB.
                          Oh for the days when you purchase something, and it's YOURS, and it WORKS.
                          Do you want those four tires ON the car-?? No thanks, I'll eat 'em here...big chewy dohnuts.

                          There is a definitive need for STAND ALONE scanners.

                          Internet goes down....(Ya, it's always so reliable)

                          Websites go down on their own....Sorry Mr Jones, we can't even LOOK at your car for another three days while the website sorts out its latest "minor inconvenience".

                          Automatic updates creates ANOTHER conflict because every software update guru thinks THEIR software takes precedence over everything else that WAS operational in a computer, tablet, or cell phone (Naaaaw, THAT never happens-!!! wanna buy the Brooklyn Bridge.....)

                          Wi-Fi screws up....

                          Road tests that stray more then 1000 feet from the shop... (ya you can link to your cell phone but look out for data surcharges-!!)

                          One vehicle twice a year needing a SUBSCRIPTION to simply say hello....

                          Subscription Times all the different marques....
                          (30 marques at a measly 50 banana per month, x 12 months..a MERE 18,000 per year-!!!!) (I don't know of any that are a mere 50/month)

                          There is a definitive need for stand alone scanners-!!!!!!
                          It might even be nice if they actually DID what the advertising and promotion flyers say they'll do, but what am I thinking....

                          I just TRIED to change the CLOUR of a few words BUT THE SOFTWARE DOESN'T DO WHAT IT SHOULD...right here in this post....ya, software is SOOOO RELIABLE-!!

                          YES Joe, I'm off on another bender. (LMAO)
                          Yep, that pretty much sums it up
                          You can expect the reputation of your business to be no better than the cheapest item or service you are willing to sell. - Wheel

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                          • Witsend
                            Banned
                            • Nov 2012
                            • 2942

                            #14
                            I'm thinking the next Platform might be called Athena and will likely have some kind of Boogle voice assistant on it and you be able to choose Athena's accent or cartoon character assistant's voice.
                            I can for-see issues when folk getting tired of running Windows 7 OS five years from now wanting to install windows 10 OS on Athena, the 2 female talking assistants won't be compatable together and have a Cat Fight that crashes the tablet .

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