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  • Chevytruckman1234
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 108

    Making your Verus better

    Has anyone took the hard drive out of their verus and plugged it in to a laptop with better internals ie: processor, ram ?
  • phill57
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2007
    • 474

    #2
    Using a different laptop

    In response to your question, removing the hard drive and attempting to use it in a different laptop would be a waste of time. It just would not work. Each computer is made of different internal hardware and the operating system must load all the specific drivers for that specific laptop and its configuration. The Verus software would not run. All links to missing hardware interfaces would generate multiple errors.

    The only thing you could possibly gain by connecting the existing hard drive from the Verus to a different laptop as a second external drive would be the ability to copy files from the Verus drive to another but you can already do this for any of your working files in several methods such as using a USB memory stick or an external hard drive.

    HTH

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    • Chevytruckman1234
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2008
      • 108

      #3
      As long as you had the BIOS loaded for the laptop that you put the hardrive in wouldn't the hard drive function. Granted the scope would be a problem as you wouldnt have it though why wouldnt the software suite work as long as you had a serial port on the laptop? All of the licenses would be there along with the software just have a faster processor.

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      • sbreland73
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2009
        • 1076

        #4
        The Verus has Snapon's propriatary "Scanner" hardware, i.e. the part that actually does the communication with the vehicle. It is the "translator" between the various vehicle modules and the scanner software. The Verus suite will not load if it does not detect this hardware. Also consider Microsoft Windows, upon installation of the OS, a unique number is generated based on hardware configuration and stored on the hard drive. If you try to "swap" the Verus hard drive into a laptop, it would most likey not boot past the welcome screen, due to the OS not recognizing the hardware configuration it is trying to load.
        S. Breland

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        • Claytons Automotive
          Junior Member
          • Jun 2010
          • 18

          #5
          I am not worried about the hard drive performance... but a better CPU would be nice. Why they used the celeron 600 is beyond me. A P3 450 or 500 runs circles around that Celeron all day long.

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          • ultraclassic99
            Junior Member
            • Mar 2009
            • 2

            #6
            Verus with Passthru

            Hi Guys,
            Anyone tried to reprogram anyGM PCM's with pass thru II.
            Trying to blow out VATS on LT1 swap. Older 4x4 married up wiring. no problem

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            • Steve6911
              Moderator
              • Feb 2007
              • 2168

              #7
              Yes, I did a 2002 Chevy Blazer 4.3L the other day with no problems

              Steve

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              • eddiesverus
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2008
                • 414

                #8
                Originally posted by ultraclassic99
                Hi Guys,
                Anyone tried to reprogram anyGM PCM's with pass thru II.
                Trying to blow out VATS on LT1 swap. Older 4x4 married up wiring. no problem
                yes I've done many on the Verus. I use GM MDI / Bosch VCI as a programer and use ac delco web tis program. you need to have a subscription to ac delco tis all module programing. very expensive for all year. if you subscribe to the short term you can only program the pcm. GOOD LUCK
                Hard Work, commitment, Honesty and not giving up is what Makes us better Tech's

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                • BladeRunner
                  Junior Member
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 17

                  #9
                  I did actually try this with a Vaio laptop and the original verus install and copying various parts of the original install to it worked as said above until it couldn't find a specific hardware probably the part that actually does the communication with the vehicle. as also mentioned above, it was a while ago and I can't remember the wording of what it wanted and couldn't find..

                  The real point here though and something I've tried to use as a stick to beat snap-on with is no one would need to ask these questions if the thing was fit for purpose in the first place.. can't remember which thread it's in now but someone summed it up perfectly saying their mobile phone is faster than their verus..

                  Snap-on cut corners on the hardware to make even more money, (from a hugely expensive diagnostic tool), and in the process knee capped it to virtual pointlessness. By now they should have listened to the customers and have a Verus pro out with a hardware platform capable of running the software and XP o/s.......so where is it snap-on? ditch this waste of space 600mhz Celeron laptop base if you ever want the Verus taken seriously

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                  • gentz
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 191

                    #10
                    How does a updated board with processor sound? That would be great if snappy would do this for all us with a 10k laptop that runs as fast as a pda or slower? I think that would be a great way to save the verus.
                    Diagnostic Specialist, diagnostic tool specialist. You name It I have it or have used it! MasterTech since 1998.

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                    • Claytons Automotive
                      Junior Member
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 18

                      #11
                      I love the comparisons.... to be honest my Verus is VERY slow. It really is embarassing to use when in sight of a customer. My unit has just run out of warranty, so I am looking at doing the ram upgrade. While I am there I will be looking into the processor. If it is embedded then I'm screwed, but if it isn't then I can possibly put something a bit more powerfull in there, like a P3 600 that runs at the same FSB and settings, that way the bios wouldn't even know the difference. That is the beauty of that era of Intel processors. I HAVE to do something... just way to damn slow. The range of the wireless network is a joke as well, my router is like 20 feet from my bay, and it is a fight to keep a constant conection.
                      Well, ranted enough, anybody else have any good ideas on actual ways of improving this beast? I did here the new 10.4 update doubles the speed of the VERUS, but seeing is believing... for $1200. I want to see somebody elses first.

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                      • Wheel
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 719

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Claytons Automotive
                        I love the comparisons.... to be honest my Verus is VERY slow. It really is embarassing to use when in sight of a customer. My unit has just run out of warranty, so I am looking at doing the ram upgrade. While I am there I will be looking into the processor. If it is embedded then I'm screwed, but if it isn't then I can possibly put something a bit more powerfull in there, like a P3 600 that runs at the same FSB and settings, that way the bios wouldn't even know the difference. That is the beauty of that era of Intel processors. I HAVE to do something... just way to damn slow. The range of the wireless network is a joke as well, my router is like 20 feet from my bay, and it is a fight to keep a constant conection.
                        Well, ranted enough, anybody else have any good ideas on actual ways of improving this beast? I did here the new 10.4 update doubles the speed of the VERUS, but seeing is believing... for $1200. I want to see somebody elses first.
                        One member in another thread said 10.4 actually slowed his down - and he had done the memory improvement. pretty just takes more power. Power we need to diagnose vehicles instead. If I want pretty, I'll build me a gaming computer.

                        From what I've heard, the processor is embedded, but more memory and a
                        solid state drive can speed things up noticeably.
                        You can expect the reputation of your business to be no better than the cheapest item or service you are willing to sell. - Wheel

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                        • Trindaddy
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 339

                          #13
                          Live and learn

                          Want a fast car? Buy one. Dont try to make your Corolla into a mustang GT. Get your modis back and buy a quality laptop! Everything will be interface modules within a few years anyway.

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                          • Wheel
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 719

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Trindaddy
                            Want a fast car? Buy one. Dont try to make your Corolla into a mustang GT. Get your modis back and buy a quality laptop! Everything will be interface modules within a few years anyway.
                            Comparing cars to scanners is comparing apples to hamburgers.
                            Before 10.4 A Verus could do way more than a Modis as far as presenting your data, but since 10.4, I would second your advice in trading a Verus for a Modis.

                            Since Snap On doesn't release Verus software separately, the
                            laptop would do you no good - if you wanted to use Snap On software.
                            The Verus may not have been a speed demon, but was adequate with its
                            hardware until 10.4, which added a lot of pretty glitz that takes a lot more
                            memory and processor than before. Visual appeal competes with the "meat and potatoes" scan /scope functions we need to diagnose a car, defeating the purpose of the tool. Can you blame someone for wanting to upgrade their
                            hardware to regain some of the speed they lost?

                            Besides, 90% of the fun of having a fast car is being the one who built it.
                            The look on the guy's face who just bought his GT mustang when you
                            blow by him with the Toyota Corolla or equivalent sleeper that YOU built is
                            priceless. It's just something you have to do to understand.
                            You can expect the reputation of your business to be no better than the cheapest item or service you are willing to sell. - Wheel

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                            • Chevytruckman1234
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 108

                              #15
                              If snap on offered a stand alone pass thru module with there software I would buy that before I would buy this slow piece of equipment. It takes twice as long to boot now from the 10.2 version (which wasn't even very fast to begin with). If SO is the best then it needs to be the best not just advertise its the best. I like the interface but they needed to mate it to the equipment it is supposed to run on as I think if they wouldn't have made it so graphics oriented and complex, the "little processor that could" in this unit could keep up. I am not opposed to upgrading the RAM or the Hard drive like some have but I shouldn't have to for the price of this. Maybe they should offer this piece of software with required upgraded internals like many car companies do when they have a bad designed part with a high failure rate.
                              Last edited by Chevytruckman1234; 11-26-2010, 12:44 PM.

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