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Old 03-11-2009, 01:32 AM
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Default Newbie with an oldie mt2500 brick? Updating questions

Hi!

I have many questions on the MT2500 scanner 'brick' i think? But will keep it simple at first as i apparently know not-much about it, but know i need it... Make sense?

Anyway, I just bought a used mt2500 scanner (backlit ver 2.2, 'brick' i think?) off of ebay... A few hours ago. Seller isn't even shipping until the AM... Regardless. After reading a few posts here looking for upgrade info i find that Snapon is not going to support the mt2500 any longer???... Dope! I guess the mt2500 is old but so are my vehicles, so maybe i'll be ok... Let's see!

I guess my first question is... Will the 'brick' support my two 99's with the latest software/firmware/eproms, cartridge, etc. updates? I would think so?

2nd question may have to wait until i get it unless someone can briefly explain the update/upgrade process, or point me to the right thread to get it? The scanner has the GM reference manual, but not sure if that will tell me how to upgrade

3rd - What would be the cartridges needed for my 99's to completely cover any fixes... (Primary, T/S, Transmission, OBDII)? Can you list the correct part numbers for me please? The scanner didn't come with any

Added vehicle info:
- 99 Chevy Blazer ZR2, 4.3, auto, 115k miles, no current codes, but i have seen the P0452 code a few times, but has not came back in 2 weeks after clearing. The fuel pump was changed over 1.5 years ago, SFI to MFI swap about 6 months ago.
- 99 Chevy Astro 4.3 auto, rear heat and a/c 126k miles, current DTC code P0420, I only recently changed the coil due to the sparking coming from the coil/top where the plug slides on

Well i think that should be it for now...

For what it's worth - I really have no need for the newer, more expensive scanners simply because i have a tremendous urge to keep older 'chevy' vehicles running and not spend my hard earned money on a newer scanner as i don't plan on making a living with it.

Sorry for the long post, but i think i just need some help getting started with this new (old) toy.

Any input truely appreciated!

Thanks

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Old 03-11-2009, 12:01 PM
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Ok if you want to update you need to get these.

MT2500VCI = BLACK PROGRAMMABLE VEHICLE COMMUNICATION INTERFACE CARTRIDGE

MT2500TSI = BLACK PROGRAMMABLE FAST-TRACK TROUBLESHOOTER INTERFACE.

After you get them they HAVE TO be programmed through your S.O. dealers "scanbay" to your latest update. Think it is 8.4 it will then cover all domestic / some asian. They also have Euro that is available that can be put onto the cartridges too. Updates come with current personality keys too.

**Save ALL of your old red cartridges too. Due to memory capability the updates take up alot of the memory and will "drop" coverage years off the end. (older vehicle year coverage will be lost)

Hope this helps.
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Old 03-11-2009, 09:35 PM
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Yikes!!

Do i really need the VCI/TCI Cartridges if I only plan on using the scanner for my own 99 chevy's, or even other chevys up to 2001????

Both are 99's.... Blazer v6 and Astro v6

I thought i only needed these two: MT25002901 T/S and the MT25001001 Primary cartridges. And, for OBDII: MT25005500

Let me know as I'm still poking around for the MT25005500 cartidge, and trying to find out what i else i need for only the 99's. I think i may have had the wrong idea of what i needed.... OOOPS!

Thanks in advance!
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If you only plan to work on those two cars, you can get the model year specific red cartridges for that year. If any updates to the software occurred after they were released you will not get them. You would be best served by finding the newest cartridges you can. What did you get for your money? How many cables, adapters, and keys? Do you know what version cartridges you got? The red ones are dated on the label.
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I got the MT2500 backlit ver2.2 and some extras.

I have 2 cartridges coming in the mail together:
Domestic Primary 2001 - OBDII And Bi-Directional Controls MT25001001, and
the Domestic T/S 2001 - Includes Expert Insight MT25002901

I beleive i will also need the Emissions T/S - MT25005999, or 5901 to keep all up to 2001????

Coming from the same source as the scanner.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

This is what i got with the scanner... Seems to be in really great shape and hopefully i got my moneys worth.

I only seem to have the Generic OBDII MT2500-46 and the K-2 key(domestic??) that will connect to my 99 chevys. The readout reads: "Disconnect Power. Insert Cartridge", so i dont see a way to confirm the version yet, nor if the backlight works... Any way to check this without a cartridge??

The scanner has the 9vdc on the side, and a rj11 connection on the top of it.

Includes:

MT2500 Scanner (Backlit. Version 2.2) <-- s/n sticker is worn off

Adaptors:
Chry-1 MT2500-30
Chry-2 MT2500-31
Jeep-1 MT2500-49
Ford-1 MT2500-20
Ford-4 MT2500-70
Mitsu-1 MT2500-55
GM-1 MT2500-10
Multi-1 MT2500-90
Multi-2 MT2500-42
OBDII MT2500-46

Cables:
MT2500-5000
Battery Power Adapter
Cigarette Power Adapter <-- broken

Keys:
K2, K5A, K13

Manuals:
GM Reference Manual (tenth edition)
Ford Reference Manual (tenth edition)
Chrysler Reference Manual (tenth edition)
Jeep Reference Manual (fourth edition)
OBD Reference Manual (first edition)
Case:

Snap On Hardshell Case


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What cartridges did you get? If you did not get any, you now own a red door stop. All of the software is in the cartridges.
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My thoughts exactly.... but I will have the 2 cartridges i listed above, tuesday of next week. They are coming from the same seller.

Is there a way to check the scanners software/firmware or does that all reside in the cartridges only? I mean if this states version 2.2 then how do i confirm that?

Also, is there a way to verifiy that the backlight works... the manuals seem to point out backlight setting when you have the battery pack connected, but nothing about the 9vdc being able to use the backlight?

Appreciate comments.
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The two cartridges you have should do you just fine. Any further updates will require new cartridges. 2.2 is the latest version of the scanner body so you will be fine there. The backlight will work when you get hooked up to a cars 12V system or a battery pack. That is to save the 9V. When the cartridges arrive, just plug and play.
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Thanks Skip!! Appreciate your input.





Update: Everything seems to work on the scanner.... I do have the v2.2 scanner and the backlight works. The mt25001001 and the 2901 cartridges seems to work fine as well, but when trying to check the engine functions the scanner wants the K-9 key inserted in the OBDII connector, so....

I got the k-9 key today in the mail and seems to be ready for use.... KOOL!!!

Once i poke around with it for awhile i'm sure i'll be back with more questions. However, I do have two more ?'s on this post....


Is there a specific GM manual that tells you what the factory settings for a given vehicle are supposed to be to allow comparisons????

and

I have the GM PROM Reference Manual 1999 on the way, but i thought i read somewhere that the year on the cover is for the previous year vehicle... Makes sense but is that true, and if it is will i need a 2000 manual for my 99's?

"Wish I had this toy years ago"

Thanks

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Hi!

I have many questions on the MT2500 scanner 'brick' i think? But will keep it simple at first as i apparently know not-much about it, but know i need it... Make sense?

Anyway, I just bought a used mt2500 scanner (backlit ver 2.2, 'brick' i think?) off of ebay... A few hours ago. Seller isn't even shipping until the AM... Regardless. After reading a few posts here looking for upgrade info i find that Snapon is not going to support the mt2500 any longer???... Dope! I guess the mt2500 is old but so are my vehicles, so maybe i'll be ok... Let's see!

I guess my first question is... Will the 'brick' support my two 99's with the latest software/firmware/eproms, cartridge, etc. updates? I would think so?

2nd question may have to wait until i get it unless someone can briefly explain the update/upgrade process, or point me to the right thread to get it? The scanner has the GM reference manual, but not sure if that will tell me how to upgrade

3rd - What would be the cartridges needed for my 99's to completely cover any fixes... (Primary, T/S, Transmission, OBDII)? Can you list the correct part numbers for me please? The scanner didn't come with any

Added vehicle info:
- 99 Chevy Blazer ZR2, 4.3, auto, 115k miles, no current codes, but i have seen the P0452 code a few times, but has not came back in 2 weeks after clearing. The fuel pump was changed over 1.5 years ago, SFI to MFI swap about 6 months ago.
- 99 Chevy Astro 4.3 auto, rear heat and a/c 126k miles, current DTC code P0420, I only recently changed the coil due to the sparking coming from the coil/top where the plug slides on

Well i think that should be it for now...

For what it's worth - I really have no need for the newer, more expensive scanners simply because i have a tremendous urge to keep older 'chevy' vehicles running and not spend my hard earned money on a newer scanner as i don't plan on making a living with it.

Sorry for the long post, but i think i just need some help getting started with this new (old) toy.

Any input truely appreciated!

Thanks
I really need some repair manual about this. Can anyone tell me about the difference between VCI/TCI Cartridges? Do they really differ that much?

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