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  • DougMontgomery
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2007
    • 194

    #16
    Originally posted by Steve6911
    Of course it does Doug, what were you thinking?
    Hey..You have to admit..I'm getting better...I asked

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    • cbender
      Member
      • Feb 2011
      • 57

      #17
      I have a Verdict and I have mixed opinions about it. The 11.2 update fixed alot of problems with it but I still have some issues. When the thing works I love it, I can easily print my codes, data, labscope recordings since it is it windows based. It's nice to be able to record so much data and evaluate it later but on the down side it does freeze up a bit and I have problems communicating with vehicles at times. Today I was scoping a cam and crank signal on a 98 cavalier that intermitently would die and restart, after logging about 30 minets of labscope data the vehicle finally produced the fault and my verdict froze up and i was forced to reboot it loosing all my data and my recorded fault before i was able to review the capture. needless to say i have not been able to produce the fault since and the vehicle is still sitting in my bay. On this same vehicle I could not get Verdict to communicate with this vehicle on the manufacturer side but would communicate using the generic obdII side with no problems. I then got the shop modis and had no problem communicating with it. There is alot of good info in the verdict and the component test info is pretty good too but I do spend alot of time jacking with my verdict when I could be repairing vehicles. The shop has a modis and lots of times I'm forced to use it when my Verdict is having a bad day!

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      • mduss3
        Junior Member
        • May 2011
        • 15

        #18
        verdict

        I have recently bought a verdict scanner system, so far the first car I hooked it up to came up with no communication (96 pontiac grand am). so I search on line for no communication issues and found that obd2 generic worked fine for scanning it, but, the enhanced scanner nothing but say no communication, and that if I entered it as a 1999 instead the enhanced scanner worked.
        Well I tried it and it worked, was not happy about it but got over it, I can get around that so long as I know about it(not that I want to or should have to).
        Needless to say I was not impressed with that part of the machine, the rest of it I love it, component testing all works well lab scope works great, I do like the wireless feature, so far no bluetooth issues, with the scanner I figure that if I run into a bluetooth communication issue I will hook up the usb cable and go wire to module.

        I have noticed it is a tad slow on the boot up, I may have slowed it some by installing an antivirus program and malwarebytes, I put it on because it is after all an xp computer before a scanner and if it is going to connect wirelessly to the net you should have an antivirus at the very least, I use these on all my computers and have very few issues with lock ups and crashes. like autos, preventive maintenance goes a long way.

        Any way the more I use my verdict and get used to it, the more I like it, it really is fantastic, and supposing I did have to send out the scanner I still have my scope module handy if I may need it.

        One last thing I would recommend watching the snap on training videos they helped clear up a few issues I had because I did not know my way around the software that it uses, I was used to my solus pro, in conclusion I am glad I bought it. It is a great tool that I am actually going to train my 17 and 16 year old sons to do diagnostics with.

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        • gfuchikami
          Senior Member
          • May 2008
          • 388

          #19
          scanner

          This may be a little too late as the last post was in June, but the Solus Ultra seems to be the greatest scanner out there for now. Although I haven't played with one yet, I've heard a number of guys who are very happy with it (in contrast to the Verdict) on the scanner side. The best thing is that it does NOT run Windows and partly due to this it boots up in 10 seconds! It's keyless and is NOT wireless! (I avoid wireless as there's just too much of a chance of intermod/cross-mod and other RF-related interference that could compromise the integrity of the data you're getting.) It also charges the internal battery while you're connected to the vehicle. Wish I had one!

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          • cbender
            Member
            • Feb 2011
            • 57

            #20
            I can't give a great review for Verdict's performance, but for the most part I like mine and believe in the future snapon will get the bugs worked out. I't does help me fix alot of vehicles and the 11.4 update helped it out quite a bit. There is more component tests in the verus and verdict software than any other scan tool out there.

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            • transporter
              Member
              • Jun 2012
              • 43

              #21
              Any updates on the Verdict's performance? Did SO ironed all of the bugs in it by now? I'd like to update my Ethos in next 2 moths or so.

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              • David_E39
                Junior Member
                • Jul 2012
                • 13

                #22
                I recently purcahsed a snapon verdict and my dealer will drop it off to me on tuesday. I will give you info on it once i play around with it for alittle bit

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                • sandt38
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2012
                  • 187

                  #23
                  There is no one perfect tool out there. Units as complex and well featured as the Verdict and Verus are going to have issues. Any aftermarket tool does.

                  The Verus and Verdict are both excellent, feature rich platforms. They are also both windows based computers. You need to use them intelligently, and expect Windows issues. Don't go browsing the internet looking for porn, or you can expect issues. I only go online to access IATN and Identifix, and of course Shopkey. Aside from loading an antivirus (just in case) I have not and will not load anything onto these units. These are scan tools, use them as such. If you want to browse for porn, or download music, or play games, buy a $300 laptop from Wal-Mart.

                  Personally I love how feature rich the upper end Snap-On units are. I have a few manufacturer specific tools, and a MT VCI, but for a great all-in-one, and one I use as my go-to tool for side work, I grab my Verus.

                  The Verdict is a great tool, just realize that no aftermarket tool can do everything for all manufacturer, and no tool is perfect.

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                  • David_E39
                    Junior Member
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 13

                    #24
                    Originally posted by sandt38
                    There is no one perfect tool out there. Units as complex and well featured as the Verdict and Verus are going to have issues. Any aftermarket tool does.

                    The Verus and Verdict are both excellent, feature rich platforms. They are also both windows based computers. You need to use them intelligently, and expect Windows issues. Don't go browsing the internet looking for porn, or you can expect issues. I only go online to access IATN and Identifix, and of course Shopkey. Aside from loading an antivirus (just in case) I have not and will not load anything onto these units. These are scan tools, use them as such. If you want to browse for porn, or download music, or play games, buy a $300 laptop from Wal-Mart.

                    Personally I love how feature rich the upper end Snap-On units are. I have a few manufacturer specific tools, and a MT VCI, but for a great all-in-one, and one I use as my go-to tool for side work, I grab my Verus.

                    The Verdict is a great tool, just realize that no aftermarket tool can do everything for all manufacturer, and no tool is perfect.

                    I agree with you 100%. No tool is perfect and there is no such tool that can do everything. And like you said the Verdict and Verus are bith windows based so it is going to have issues. The scanners are made for using them as a scanner nit a laptop.

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                    • JSW Fabworks
                      Junior Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 1

                      #25
                      I "upgraded" from my Solus Pro about 6 months ago. This (other than my first marriage) is my biggest regret. The thing is slow, battery life is about as long as a teenagers attention span and the WIFI is unreliable. If you can find a Modis, jump on it. Stay away from the newer scanners if you want to sustain any resemblance of productivity.

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                      • Bob's Garage
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 3257

                        #26
                        Verdict new or used?

                        Originally posted by JSW Fabworks
                        I "upgraded" from my Solus Pro about 6 months ago. This (other than my first marriage) is my biggest regret. The thing is slow, battery life is about as long as a teenagers attention span and the WIFI is unreliable. If you can find a Modis, jump on it. Stay away from the newer scanners if you want to sustain any resemblance of productivity.

                        Did you get a new Verdict? If so, it should have been 12.2. If you just bought it new, your Snap-on dealer may offer you an up grade to 12.4. 12.4 is the answer for Verdict. There are so many improvements for Verdict in 12.4that it should help.

                        I have had a Verdict since 2010 and have had few hardware issues. The software has been improved to the point that I have seen no errors with the 12.4 release.

                        If, yours was a used unit then it is difficult to say what was done with it before you got it.

                        Battery life has always been one of the strong points with Verdict. Even the standard battery has good life, but the 8 hour battery is really good. Another good thing about the Verdict battery is that it charges nicely just off of a cigar lighter adapter.

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                        • christiansells
                          Junior Member
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 1

                          #27
                          Glad I found this thread.I am thinking about trading in my solus pro for a verdict. I have euro package but only up to 2009.I work on a lot of late model cars.I usually have to go in generic to get info. Most of my stuff are late model flood cars and wreck rebuildables. I either have to upgrade my scanner or hold off and wait and see what happens with the verdict. I have test drove the verus for 2 weeks and liked it.It is just to big and bulky for me.

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                          • sbreland73
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 1076

                            #28
                            Originally posted by christiansells
                            Glad I found this thread.I am thinking about trading in my solus pro for a verdict. I have euro package but only up to 2009.I work on a lot of late model cars.I usually have to go in generic to get info. Most of my stuff are late model flood cars and wreck rebuildables. I either have to upgrade my scanner or hold off and wait and see what happens with the verdict. I have test drove the verus for 2 weeks and liked it.It is just to big and bulky for me.
                            Test drive the Verus Pro and see how that feels, as it is lighter, and shaped more like the Solus than a square.
                            S. Breland

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                            • meatwad
                              Junior Member
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 25

                              #29
                              Just figured I'd bring this one back from the dead to see if anybody knows if 13.2 is running smoothly on the Verdict??????

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                              • dbarnes5654
                                Senior Member
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 123

                                #30
                                I have only owned my verdict for about three months and would have to say I really like it. I turn it on when I first arrive in the morning as it does take a while to boot up. I really like the wireless and keyless features. I still own the solus pro and the vantage pro, so I have reliable back up if a problem were to develop, but so far nothing to disasterous has happened. I have had an occaisional lock up and my dealer recommended a re-image, which I did. Nothing to report on that as it has not been a long enough period to see if it fixed anything yet. I'm still getting use to the wireless scope meter. At this point, I still love my vantage pro but I've had it a very long time and just know it better.

                                As others have said, insist on a loaner to try it out. I really don't think a week is long enough but it will give you a taste of the tool.
                                Good luck,

                                Don


                                PS- the vantage pro and solus pro are possible alternatives and are very stable platforms.

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