No More GM RPO Stickers

[Witsend]

That's 100 times better than stickers. Most cars still have them, but now that it's digital, it'll be super easy. Thanks for the info greasybob
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Not really, when GM is being a Pr@ck and putting stickers too far back in a tight spot that makes it very very difficult to get a Smart phone with a reader App in between the B-pillar and front of the rear door and focus a camera properly to read the Gibberish that's meant to F@ck the aftermarket and it actually screws their own poor Parts guys that have to deal with way more of their time getting wasted with nuisance phone calls requesting option codes.
I also cant seem to find out how to get temperature to display in Fahrenheit on a 2018 Chevy Trax. Guess I'll see what I can Access with my Maxi Cyst and report back later.

Well, went to scan the 2018 Trax with a Maxi Cyst and it read and auto ID'ed the VIN just fine but after Id , but before continuing , it prompts you to select the correct 3 digit engine code for the 1.4L. I call and get from dealer. I paint it on the VECI label where it belongs. The Maxi Cyst then prompted me to select the correct 3 digit radio code that I had to call a dealer again and enter code IOR before doing an Auto Scan which scanned 14 modules . If you do GMs with a Maxi Cyst , even old ones ,you know you do have to select engine and RPO codes and be able to access the RPO codes some how if you have 2 or 3 choices for same engine sizet . I am not sure if it really matters for just doing an AutoScan if you were to just guess and enter wrong RPO code , but live data, active tests, special functions, and coding without having errors, that is dependent the correct RPO code for the prompts. Not sure if Snap On requires such selection prompts to be made for GMs , but if it doesn't require selection of specific RPO codes ( IF THE SNAP ON SCANNER HAS AS MUCH FUNCTIONALITY WITHOUT FINDING OUT THE CORRECT RPO CODE ) then that's a good thing to not have to deal with that Bullsh@t.

I was wondering

[juniur]

ive never had to deal with the RPO codes i do remember having to give the ford dealer the calibration code to get correct parts.

[Crusty]

Originally Posted by Witsend

Not really, when GM is being a Pr@ck and putting stickers too far back in a tight spot that makes it very very difficult to get a Smart phone with a reader App in between the B-pillar and front of the rear door and focus a camera properly to read the Gibberish that's meant to F@ck the aftermarket and it actually screws their own poor Parts guys that have to deal with way more of their time getting wasted with nuisance phone calls requesting option codes.
I also cant seem to find out how to get temperature to display in Fahrenheit on a 2018 Chevy Trax. Guess I'll see what I can Access with my Maxi Cyst and report back later.

Well, went to scan the 2018 Trax with a Maxi Cyst and it read and auto ID'ed the VIN just fine but after Id , but before continuing , it prompts you to select the correct 3 digit engine code for the 1.4L. I call and get from dealer. I paint it on the VECI label where it belongs. The Maxi Cyst then prompted me to select the correct 3 digit radio code that I had to call a dealer again and enter code IOR before doing an Auto Scan which scanned 14 modules . If you do GMs with a Maxi Cyst , even old ones ,you know you do have to select engine and RPO codes and be able to access the RPO codes some how if you have 2 or 3 choices for same engine sizet . I am not sure if it really matters for just doing an AutoScan if you were to just guess and enter wrong RPO code , but live data, active tests, special functions, and coding without having errors, that is dependent the correct RPO code for the prompts. Not sure if Snap On requires such selection prompts to be made for GMs , but if it doesn't require selection of specific RPO codes ( IF THE SNAP ON SCANNER HAS AS MUCH FUNCTIONALITY WITHOUT FINDING OUT THE CORRECT RPO CODE ) then that's a good thing to not have to deal with that Bullsh@t.

I was wondering

Unless they've changed, what I believe are legal requirements for vehicle VIN/Serial numbers, the 4th digit is the carline (trucks the 5th), then the engine is the 8th digit, and the year is the 10th digit.
If a scanner can read the VIN, then it SHOULD be able to find the 8th digit, (they seem to be pretty good at finding the year), but sometimes it can't seem to recognize the engine digit.
As for the radio, IDGAF, unless there are issues that are related to the radio. If other things don't look right, just select another radio option code.
There are some websites that will decode a VIN, but it's still another wasted step.
The RPO code stickers must cost all of 1/4 of a penny.......BIG gain for the company to eliminate those, waste peoples time, wrong parts ordered, etc.
As for the dealer parts systems that want the VIN entered to search for parts, they're not always correct either.
I ALWAYS have the VIN ready for any parts person, and I can't count the number of times I've had to tell them to take the VIN out of their computer to find the right parts, dealers AND aftermarket.
Everybody "thinks" technology has all the answers....(sigh)

[Witsend]

Unless they've changed, what I believe are legal requirements for vehicle VIN/Serial numbers, the 4th digit is the carline (trucks the 5th), then the engine is the 8th digit, and the year is the 10th digit.
If a scanner can read the VIN, then it SHOULD be able to find the 8th digit, (they seem to be pretty good at finding the year), but sometimes it can't seem to recognize the engine digit.
As for the radio, IDGAF, unless there are issues that are related to the radio. If other things don't look right, just select another radio option code.
There are some websites that will decode a VIN, but it's still another wasted step.
The RPO code stickers must cost all of 1/4 of a penny.......BIG gain for the company to eliminate those, waste peoples time, wrong parts ordered, etc.
As for the dealer parts systems that want the VIN entered to search for parts, they're not always correct either.
I ALWAYS have the VIN ready for any parts person, and I can't count the number of times I've had to tell them to take the VIN out of their computer to find the right parts, dealers AND aftermarket.
Everybody "thinks" technology has all the answers....(sigh)
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I get frustrated that even though I have auto ID of the VIN that saves time not having to do an actual VIN digit entry and not dealing with personality keys on an Autel MaxiSys, I often have a choice to make of 2 to 4 different engine codes with different KW rated power for the same particular liter size engine, then it asks if car has Radar Cruise, Laser Cruise. (No, but there's a Tom Cruise movie in the F@c!ing DVD player.) WTF, shouldn't the car manufacturers be required to have option information just be pulled and displayed by the scan tool on Auto ID? On a complete system scan does Snap On Scanners require these selections. Seems like something that shouldn't require making a selection until you go into Bi directional testing, special functions, or coding.PITA

[juniur]

reminds me of the times ive worked on the old IH trucks, unless you had a "build sheet" you had no way of knowing what was on that particular truck

[Glide]

The only "legal" requirements for VIN is that the first character is the country of manufacture, 1 and 5 are US,2 is Canada,3 is Mexico,etc.,and the 10th character is the year.The other numbers and letters are manufacturer specific.
As you go through manual vehicle selection,most if not all Snapon scanners tell you on the screen which VIN position to look at.

[Crusty]

Originally Posted by Glide

The only "legal" requirements for VIN is that the first character is the country of manufacture, 1 and 5 are US,2 is Canada,3 is Mexico,etc.,and the 10th character is the year.The other numbers and letters are manufacturer specific.
As you go through manual vehicle selection,most if not all Snapon scanners tell you on the screen which VIN position to look at.

There is a whole lot more to a VIN than that.

[Glide]

Read things before you post them.Positions 1,2 and 10 are the only specific positions named.the other mandated positions are general areas such as 3-8,the last 8,etc.
We who actually work on many brands of vehicles understand this and see it every day.

[Crusty]

Originally Posted by Glide

Read things before you post them.Positions 1,2 and 10 are the only specific positions named.the other mandated positions are general areas such as 3-8,the last 8,etc.
We who actually work on many brands of vehicles understand this and see it every day.

How about if YOU "read things before you post them-!!!

I guess this wasn't in your previous post.....

""The only "legal" requirements for VIN is that the first character is the country of manufacture""

Now you say that 1,2 and 10 are mandated....
There is a lot more mandated than just 1. 2 and 10 if YOU decide to read the government document instead of spewing BILE much like other sites put up with.
I pointed out what GM have been doing for over 30 years with the 4th, 5th and 8th and 10th digits so others could make use of those FACTS.
I've been working (and FIXING) many brands for over 45 years every day and understand that there is a LOT of good information within a VIN.
Along with that, there is information that the VIN alone will not tell us.
YES, We who work on many brands of vehicles understand this and see it every day. THAT is why the VIN is the FIRST thing I write down and enter into my shop system under the customers vehicle file card EVERY TIME, and have been doing that for DECADES.
The RPO labels on the vehicles was a very good thing and it's sad that they've decided to save the 3-1/2 cents per vehicle by removing them.

HAVE A NICE DAY......

[SnapOnKid]

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