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  • racingdave
    Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 50

    #1

    Ford pick up 2007 5.4

    How do i find an intermitant miss with the solus,i can feel the miss at times but dont see any valuable info on the scanner.how do you use mode 6.Gotta be a better way.should take a minute to find a miss.
  • redneck
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 1

    #2
    2003 5.4

    im with you same thing. got a miss says its missing but no cyl number

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    • Syclone892
      Junior Member
      • Oct 2008
      • 19

      #3
      I haven't played with that new of a ford yet but you want to go into generic functions then mode 6. You need to know what test # to run, older fords are 51 or 53. Check with mitchell or alldata as I think they explain which test # and what it exactly is.

      Mode 6 is extremely handy for those instances. Good luck

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      • AMX77
        Junior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 21

        #4
        I agree with syclone... usually test id or tid 53 is mhere you'll find what you want, then component 1 through 8 are the cylinders, hope this helps

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        • kebo1970
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 212

          #5
          miss

          good luck finding a miss with your solus or mode 6. its much easier with the vantage or vantage pro

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          • Syclone892
            Junior Member
            • Oct 2008
            • 19

            #6
            Not sure if you have ever used mode 6 but it is far eaiser that using a vantage.
            Simply look up test # and look for the cyl(s) that show a value other than 0 and you have found your miss.

            Vantage you have to drag out testers etc to hook up to the vehicle and test each individually, far more difficult.

            Both are very do able but mode 6 is the fastest by far

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            • David06wing
              Junior Member
              • Mar 2009
              • 8

              #7
              If you get to mode 6,I think it's 6. You will see that it shows data min and max readings. If you look at the next line you will see a value reading, this is where you see which cylinder is misfiring. Any number other than 0 means the PCM has seen a misfire for that cylinder. Look at all 8 cylinders to see which is the culprit.

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              • racingdave
                Member
                • Jul 2009
                • 50

                #8
                Thanks for the feed back iam still stuggling finding misses on most fords.Today i spent hours on a 2004 lincoln 4.6 same problem car has an intermiitant miss ,i feel it the customer feels it and the scanner will tell me that it is missing but wont idenify what cylinder or cylinders are missing.I tuned it up and bought one coil i test drove the car 8 times swiching coils every time and couldnt resolve it.It must have 2 bad coils probably on opposite sides.GOTTA BE A BETTER WAY.i will try the mode 6 stuff i have been messing with mode 6 all day not hepfull i dont know what to look for i will try looking at the value readings tomorrow and see if they make sense.HELP!!!!!

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                • Nickb
                  DSD
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 206

                  #9
                  The new update (9.4) has Cylinder Contribution for 2000 - 2004 This greatly helps with misfires on those years.
                  DSD

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                  • kebo1970
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 212

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Syclone892
                    Not sure if you have ever used mode 6 but it is far eaiser that using a vantage.
                    Simply look up test # and look for the cyl(s) that show a value other than 0 and you have found your miss.

                    Vantage you have to drag out testers etc to hook up to the vehicle and test each individually, far more difficult.

                    Both are very do able but mode 6 is the fastest by far
                    it may be faster and easier but not as RELIABLE as using a scope; thats what you should be looking for RELIABILITY. use mode 6 to confirm that you fixed the problem not find it. what if you have more than one cylinder missing?

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                    • Steve6911
                      Moderator
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 2608

                      #11
                      Originally posted by kebo1970
                      what if you have more than one cylinder missing?
                      If you have more then one cylinder mis-firing it will show up on those cylinders CID.
                      Example
                      TID $53 CID$01 - 0
                      TID $53 CID$02 - 739
                      TID $53 CID$03 - 529
                      TID $53 CID$04 - 0

                      This would be mis-fires on cylinders 2 & 3. Not enoungh to set a code as it is no where near a MAX reading, however mis-fires would be present. At this time there may be some software issues as far as counts being present with no mis-fires. (see some other posts on this) However if you do have mis-fires and clear codes (even with none present) to reset count to 0 and road testing show a increasing count to me that is reliable. Also if I am reading correctly to you Mode 6 is not that reliable, then how could you use something unreliable to confirm anything?

                      Steve
                      Last edited by Steve6911; 11-07-2009, 09:09 AM. Reason: added question

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                      • kebo1970
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 212

                        #12
                        i said mode 6 is not as RELIABLE as a scope. use mode 6 along with your scope readings after repairs to confirm that your problem is solved. imagine using just a scanner to find mis-fires.
                        Last edited by kebo1970; 11-08-2009, 06:14 AM.

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                        • kebo1970
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 212

                          #13
                          mode 6

                          mode 6 was never meant to find problems; it was meant to verify that a vehicle was fixed

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                          • FVS49060
                            Junior Member
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 2

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Nickb
                            The new update (9.4) has Cylinder Contribution for 2000 - 2004 This greatly helps with misfires on those years.
                            What this user has stated is very helpful for those who received the update...

                            Snapon Provides help on how to use the features of the 9.4 update here...



                            Login (no charge) and view the slide titled New Cylinder Contribution Test.

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