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  • Bob's Garage
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2007
    • 3312

    #1

    Saturn 2 006 IonTheft Relearn

    What a pain. 2006 Saturn Ion. Did a lock cylinder and housing. I had to relearn the theft. So, I get out my MDI, (Tech 2 won't do it!).

    When you open SPS on TIS to WEB, you get all those cautionary statements about "do not attempt to reprogram BCM, contact support" so, I did.

    After sitting on hold with AC Delco support, I get a genteman that after explaining to him what I want to do, says, "are you replacing the BCM?" I say no. He says "then you didn't need to call, you can go ahead an reprogram the BCM or do your theft learn". Hmmmm, I explain to him what the messages says,"do not attempt to reprogram etc..call for authorization" he says "I know, just go ahead and reprogram". I ask him "why doesn't the SPS page say "DO NOT ATTEMPT TO REPLACE" instead of "REPROGRAM". He says "he does't know". I told him that must generate a lot of needless phone calls, he responds with "hey, it's a Saturn, why do you think GM dumped them?" I had to laugh. HE says, "go ahead and relearn it, I'll stay on the line"

    So I do. So now, keeping in mind, I just want to do a theft relearn., I have to answer all the configuration questions. California 15" tires or 16" tires or Federal 15" or 16". Equipped with ABS/ traction control or not? RKE or not? and on and on. All these question can be answered, but why?? It even asked me what tire size again, this time the actual tire aspect.

    @%*&#&)(@!!! I just want to do a frickin' theft relearn. Well, it worked. The car started up.

    They sure give a lot of room for error. Can you imagine, having a BCM issue because you fat fingered a configuration question, just because you wanted to do a theft relearn? I never went through all of that on any other GM.

    For the record, we did try the "leave the key on in the run position" to try learn that way, it didn't work.
    Last edited by Bob's Garage; 01-10-2012, 04:52 AM.
  • Rich Barton
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 452

    #2
    Originally posted by Bob's Garage
    What a pain. 2006 Saturn Ion. Did a lock cylinder and housing. I had to relearn the theft. So, I get out my MDI, (Tech 2 won't do it!).

    When you open SPS on TIS to WEB, you get all those cautionary statements about "do not attempt to reprogram BCM, contact support" so, I did.

    After sitting on hold with AC Delco support, I get a genteman that after explaining to him what I want to do, says, "are you replacing the BCM?" I say no. He says "then you didn't need to call, you can go ahead an reprogram the BCM or do your theft learn". Hmmmm, I explain to him what the messages says,"do not attempt to reprogram etc..call for authorization" he says "I know, just go ahead and reprogram". I ask him "why doesn't the SPS page say "DO NOT ATTEMPT TO REPLACE" instead of "REPROGRAM". He says "he does't know". I told him that must generate a lot of needless phone calls, he responds with "hey, it's a Saturn, why do you think GM dumped them?" I had to laugh. HE says, "go ahead and relearn it, I'll stay on the line"

    So I do. So now, keeping in mind, I just want to do a theft relearn., I have to answer all the configuration questions. California 15" tires or 16" tires or Federal 15" or 16". Equipped with ABS/ traction control or not? RKE or not? and on and on. All these question can be answered, but why?? It even asked me what tire size again, this time the actual tire aspect.

    @%*&#&)(@!!! I just want to do a frickin' theft relearn. Well, it worked. The car started up.

    They sure give a lot of room for error. Can you imagine, having a BCM issue because you fat fingered a configuration question, just because you wanted to do a theft relearn? I never went through all of that on any other GM.

    For the record, we did try the "leave the key on in the run position" to try learn that way, it didn't work.
    Morning Bob,
    Did you try the tech 2 in passthru it will work as a passtru device.

    I have done alot of saturns with no problem but keep in mind it will only work in passthru not tech2 remote.
    Rich Barton
    C.R.B. Repair

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    • ToltecasChavez
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2011
      • 409

      #3
      Nice tips guys. Excellent info for the future. Never had a saturn, so I'm hoping if this happens, I have some help. Regards, Chavez.

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      • Bob's Garage
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2007
        • 3312

        #4
        Originally posted by Rich Barton
        Morning Bob,
        Did you try the tech 2 in passthru it will work as a passtru device.

        I have done alot of saturns with no problem but keep in mind it will only work in passthru not tech2 remote.
        No, I did try a Tech2 remote though, Theft relearn is not supported. After that I went straight to the MDI.

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        • USpMD
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2010
          • 171

          #5
          Every time I get a call for a Saturn BCM, PCM or relearn, dosent seem to matter if its a PMI or reflash, it just is a pain in the "#$$" Always seems to take two to three times longer than any other GM make, cant wait till they go away all together
          "I wanna help the helpless, but I could careless about the clueless". Dennis Miller

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          • orlando
            Member
            • Feb 2011
            • 70

            #6
            reflash

            i have a 2007 Ion 1g8aj58f57z105432 can i use the passthru pro II to reflash it after replacing the ignition switch and the housing ?

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