SureTrack Users General Discussion

[Crossland Auto]

Chain strech

Greasy, it is amazing what a small amount of stretch in chain can do. This reminded me of my 1 and only (so far) VW 2.5 nightmare. After pulling head and lapping 4 valves for jumped chain. Customer wanted only guides and tensioner replaced. Good for 2 days. Jumped again during cold start, high idle. Banged all 10. Set a steel ruler in vice, leveled it with a torpedo level. Hung new and old chain next to each other, about 1/2 pin stretch through half the chain. When assembled the tensioner hardly budged after releasing it. No more issues after chain.

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[Witsend]

on the subject of chains and crank shaft pulley holders

Bob, how about A heavy duty chain wrench like a Rigid 31330 with a cutoff section of old serpentine belt wrap or old leather belt around the pulley ?
For keyed pulleys without torque to yield bolts I confess to having used the engine starter crank method , but often pre heat area of bolt washer with acetylene torch if saying a Hail Mary Full of Torque with 3/4" impact gun doesn't work
The only manufacturer specific crankshaft pulley holding tool I own so far is The hex shaped Honda one.
Manufacturer specific crankshaft holder tools with a actual torque wrench and a degree wheel might give a much better peace of mind for those Dicey setups having ,non keyed crank shafts with torque to yield one time use Crankshaft pulley bolts.
Looks like KTC tools sells some manufacturer specific crankshaft holder tools.
Funny how many manufacturers went back to expensive timing chain set ups from belts thinking that they would remain worry free for over 200K and save people a major service expense around a 100k.

[liljoe]

Jake update

Got a message last night that Jakes surgery went well yesterday and he got the plumbing all fixed up and should make a nice recovery.

[greasybob]

That's good to hear.

[Witsend]

"Ditto, way better than giving up the Ghost"(Patrick Sway-Z ?)

[greasybob]

Bad day for snappy 3/8th impact. I just took the 6.0 fan shroud off and set it down and looked and all the smoke was escaping. And no I did not get it wet or let oil get into it.

[greasybob]

Hmmm, wonder what really happened here ? Valve prints. I inherited this job with the engine half tore apart, the cab half bolted down and enough spare parts it the bed to build another engine.

[Gordon2Miles]

Hopefully it is not a hoover board experience one time Greasy! LOL

[Crossland Auto]

I Hope The F.B. Posts Are False!!!

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[Crossland Auto]

Not sure if I am the correct person to post this; Here is my latest Facebook post on Jake Payne's timeline.

Dr. Jake.
You will be missed my friend. You were a special kind of person that had an attitude that either: Created inspiration, or bitterness throughout the Automotive Repair Industry. I took our 1st. conflict through Mitchell O.D.5. as a challenge. We battled back and forth, you gained my respect. I got to know you through Mitchell, then more personally through Skype. Though I have never personally met you, a large piece of my heart has just stopped permanently. San Diego CA. is a bit sadder.
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DR. X.
Craig Crossland.

[Witsend]

Didn't know Jake and still not sure if our chains are getting yanked here or not , but from what posts I read and his You tube videos I watched, I like the guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvhrPMJe8LE

[liljoe]

Sadly enough this is not any chain yanking, he really did go meet his maker. Not sure what went wrong, but he came home from surgery and had to back for some reason and never came back out. He was a good guy with a little different way of looking at the world. he once drove here to bama for a weekend to help me look at a strange problem on a 6.0. He and Alex ( his son ) are both very fine people....
A real loss for sure.

[Gordon2Miles]

Dr Jake

Thanks Liljoe for the insight! My God's speed be with him. It is a sad loss for us that knew him from Mitchell 1.

[dodge90]

prayers for his family, didn't know him except for here but did enjoy and will miss his funny way of putting things.

[DoctorD907]

Dr Jake

Just to add to what others have reported here. Jake passed away Saturday 1/30/16 His originally planed surgery for heart valve and aorta repair was pushed back after testing showed some restriction of one carotid artery. He underwent surgery on Wednesday of last week and on Thursday before he had gained consciousness they noticed he had signs of stroke and a CT scan confirmed (likely happened during the lengthy surgical procedure) After a few days of monitoring, testing and no change of condition a decision to remove life support was made and he calmly passed.

Jake had an impact on many lives across the automotive repair industry from across the USA to around the world. Jake was basically one of the first to begin using the live tip system on the OD5 product as a general discussion and probably in one way or another led to what this forum has since become. Jake was certainly not "politically correct" and sometimes (many times) the discussion went in the toilet so to speak. Even though I figure Nick was stretched to the end of himself on a regular basis, I even saw in those interactions a guy who was hard to hold a grudge against for long. I respect Nick for his professional moderation of sometimes difficult "rule bending" on the part of discussion members like Jake and myself and I know he always had a soft place in his heart for Jake.

There is a empty place in my life left in Jakes passing. I cant tell you how many times he made me laugh until I cried. He was a super smart tech. Used some unorthodox methods but for any guy his age who could crank out the work like Jake I have tremendous respect. Jake and his son Alex traveled here to help at my shop for a short time and also worked at my commercial fishing business here in Alaska. Jake liked people. He was generous and kind. Would give the shirt off his back to help. If you got to know him you knew those things about him. One thing everyone knew...He loved his son Alex. Alex meant the world to him and if there was one reason to not ever give up on life it was to be there for his boy. Alex is a quality guy and my heart just breaks for him today. I knew Alex thinks the world of his dad and I cant imagine the loss he is dealing with in his passing.

There will be a memorial service for Jake Payne on Wednesday 2/3/16 at Kennedy Mortuary in Laurens, SC and burial to follow. Please pray for Jakes family during this time of great loss. If you would like to send condolences to the family please send to:
Alex Payne
Tavern Motors 1009 Neely Ferry Rd
Laurens, SC 29360

I want to thank everyone here for the community of support of fellow techs, the team at Mitchell and Nick for allowing for the relational connection of techs across the country/globe so that we can support each other in every aspect of work and life.

Blessings,

DrD