Verus Edge

[Wheel]

Damn you!!!

We no longer have a scan tool demo guy in this area and most dealers won't drop the cash on a demo unit.

Can you answer this question for me? What is the size difference between this and the Verus 1 and 2???

It seems much thinner obviously.

Jay probably trusts you with it like he would trust me! He knows he probably wouldn't get it back... right?

[Wheel]

now we would have a great scanner!!!!!

James

It would definitely be more incentive to shell out the extra coin
for the Verus which costs considerably more than the next offering down.

[timstech]

Looks like Verus Edge and Maxisys Elite may share the same processor

[Jay G.]

Still no information about the verus edge you know pro's and con's

why should I spend the money??? any help would be great
fact sheet?

James

Hi James,
I'm sure those that have upgraded from a Verus/Verus Pro to the Edge will let you know what the pro's and con's are.

It's just been released so give it some time.

Jay

[Jay G.]

Jay probably trusts you with it like he would trust me! He knows he probably wouldn't get it back... right?

I do trust you and Joe. The Edge is too new to be loaning them out right now and Tim a few years back i sent you a Verus with 12.4 for you to compare with your 10.4 software. You sent it back along with some great notes on the differences.

Jay

[Wheel]

I do trust you and Joe. The Edge is too new to be loaning them out right now and Tim a few years back i sent you a Verus with 12.4 for you to compare with your 10.4 software. You sent it back along with some great notes on the differences.

Jay

I know you do - I was just kidding both of you. It would be a lot harder for me to turn loose of the new tool if i got my hands on one I imagine.
I'm actually more curious about the 15.4 software on the tool than about the tool itself for reasons I have stated often since 10.2.
We currently do not have a dealer, so it will be a while before i have a chance to see either the new tool or the new software.

I hope those notes were of some use to the company.
I wish I knew how the new software stacked up against the 10.2 to determine if it's time to upgrade or not. I know 15.4 is better coverage-wise.

[Jay G.]

I know you do - I was just kidding both of you. It would be a lot harder for me to turn loose of the new tool if i got my hands on one I imagine.
I'm actually more curious about the 15.4 software on the tool than about the tool itself for reasons I have stated often since 10.2.
We currently do not have a dealer, so it will be a while before i have a chance to see either the new tool or the new software.

I hope those notes were of some use to the company.
I wish I knew how the new software stacked up against the 10.2 to determine if it's time to upgrade or not. I know 15.4 is better coverage-wise.

The information you provided was very helpful, in fact the i gave the DVD you sent me to the Verus Edge product manager and he reviewed it and added some of your suggestion (i will ask if he has a list) one was drag and drop PID's among others.

Thanks
Jay

[phill57]

Verus Edge versus Verus Pro

Hello fellow techs.

Got my hands on the Verus Edge today and had a bit of an opportunity to play with it. First impression is the tool feels solid. It's definitely thinner but almost the same height and width as the Pro. I have linked to a short startup vid comparing the two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg4XCjKzbAk

The screen on the edge gives the illusion of being bigger but when you actually measure the working area of the screen its within 1/8" of the Pro. The screen resolution used on the Edge makes the icons and fonts appear smaller and therefore the screen looks slightly bigger.

I have not had a chance to compare the 15.4 software to the 15.2 much as I just played with the simulator a bit. I'm sorry Wheel the split screen/10.2 format is not back.

There is the added quick link to access TSB's which download to your tool from Mitchell Prodemand or ShopKey depending on which service you have access to. My rep told me this will only be available on the Edge platform. I'm not sure if there is additional subscription service for this or if it's included in the unit price or update pricing.

The Edge is significantly faster from a cold boot to scan ready in slightly over 1 minute versus just over 3 for my Pro. I believe that is mostly due to the SSD hard drive. Too bad it's only 60 gigs. The loading of vehicle tests seemed to take about the same amount of time on both units.

I personally miss the external keys for navigation although I use a docking station 90% of the time with a keyboard and mouse so would hardly use them any more anyways.

I have to admit that I expected a bit more improvement from the Edge in hardware capabilities. Yes it has a high speed USB port and a micro SD slot but without the docking cradle which is different from the Pro there is no VGA or HDMI outputs. The Windows 7 choice is good and I agree with staying with that system.

I'll post some additional finding as I play some more.

[wagzilla]

Anybody know if the verus edge camera is better??

James

[Wheel]

Hello fellow techs.

Got my hands on the Verus Edge today and had a bit of an opportunity to play with it. First impression is the tool feels solid. It's definitely thinner but almost the same height and width as the Pro. I have linked to a short startup vid comparing the two: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg4XCjKzbAk

The screen on the edge gives the illusion of being bigger but when you actually measure the working area of the screen its within 1/8" of the Pro. The screen resolution used on the Edge makes the icons and fonts appear smaller and therefore the screen looks slightly bigger.

I have not had a chance to compare the 15.4 software to the 15.2 much as I just played with the simulator a bit. I'm sorry Wheel the split screen/10.2 format is not back.

I guess it takes someone who is actually in the field making a living using these tools to fully realize just how important and handy this feature really is and why we are so upset about losing it and not getting it back.
Otherwise the feature never would have disappeared in the first place, or even if it did, it would have been restored LONG before now.
Looks like I'll have to wait a while longer.

There is the added quick link to access TSB's which download to your tool from Mitchell Prodemand or ShopKey depending on which service you have access to. My rep told me this will only be available on the Edge platform. I'm not sure if there is additional subscription service for this or if it's included in the unit price or update pricing.

The Edge is significantly faster from a cold boot to scan ready in slightly over 1 minute versus just over 3 for my Pro. I believe that is mostly due to the SSD hard drive. Too bad it's only 60 gigs. The loading of vehicle tests seemed to take about the same amount of time on both units.

Nice they followed our lead on ssd's - yep, they should have been at least 120 gb better yet 250 gb

I personally miss the external keys for navigation although I use a docking station 90% of the time with a keyboard and mouse so would hardly use them any more anyways.

It was a mistake not including these on the new unit. Sometimes a touchscreen for all that it is is a little clumsy handling some tasks that these directional keys excel at.

I have to admit that I expected a bit more improvement from the Edge in hardware capabilities. Yes it has a high speed USB port and a micro SD slot but without the docking cradle which is different from the Pro there is no VGA or HDMI outputs. The Windows 7 choice is good and I agree with staying with that system.

I actually prefer the video ports in the dock as you essentially lose your portability once you tether the unit to something like a screen anyway.
I like the quick transition from desk bound to portable that a dock allows.

I agree 7 was the logical choice and said so a while back. At least they took that suggestion.

I'll post some additional finding as I play some more.

Thanks for the heads up - looking forward to more.

[wagzilla]

they should have been at least 120 gb better yet 250 gb I agree with you on this. one of the biggest things I don't like.
60 gb you only have 27.3 free on the c drive 7.31 on the d drive ??

I do like the boot up time and really like the sleep feature , the battery life seems to be longer 5 hours run time to 6.5 hours run time.

I'm a one man-shop, trying to spend my money wisely

I'm still not sure if it is worth the extra money I'm still playing with it. I have it for the weekend.

what else should I look at??

thanks for your time
James

[BMW JEDI]

they should have been at least 120 gb better yet 250 gb I agree with you on this. one of the biggest things I don't like.
60 gb you only have 27.3 free on the c drive 7.31 on the d drive ??

I do like the boot up time and really like the sleep feature , the battery life seems to be longer 5 hours run time to 6.5 hours run time.

I'm a one man-shop, trying to spend my money wisely

I'm still not sure if it is worth the extra money I'm still playing with it. I have it for the weekend.

what else should I look at??

thanks for your time
James

What can you do with the VERUS Edge that you can not accomplish with a MODIS Ultra? Or maybe I should say, what will the MODIS Ultra not do for you that would require purchasing the VERUS Edge?

[Wheel]

The information you provided was very helpful, in fact the i gave the DVD you sent me to the Verus Edge product manager and he reviewed it and added some of your suggestion (i will ask if he has a list) one was drag and drop PID's among others.

Thanks
Jay

If they used anything from the info, then it was time well spent.
I threw a great deal of suggestions their way hoping for the best while realistically only expecting them to seriously consider a small percentage of them. The main idea I wanted to sell them on is the more user - friendly they could make this tool, the less frustrating or intimidating it would be and the less likely it would be a dust collector because more people would pick it up and use it rather than a competing tool if it could do the job.

Drag and drop pid arrangement on a live screen is extremely useful, particularly if one still had the text / graph split screen arrangement Phill57 and I keep harping on and which I think I tried to explain on the disk.
It would be satisfying to the curiosity what they did use from the info and if they would like anything clarified or explained further.

[Wheel]

What can you do with the VERUS Edge that you can not accomplish with a MODIS Ultra? Or maybe I should say, what will the MODIS Ultra not do for you that would require purchasing the VERUS Edge?

I guess it would depend on the guy using it - his needs or prefences.
You get 2 more scope / graphing multimeter channels, a dedicated ignition scope, ability to graph / display more pids at once, you can have other
automotive related programs, articles, videos, etc right there at the car
or with you if you are away from your computer on a service call, etc.
If you don't need or want these extras, then the Modis is your tool.
I for one would not want to be without a Verus of some kind in my tool lineup, because each and every one of these features I frequently find extremely convenient if not absolutely necessary.

[Witsend]

For the admission price of This Flagship Scanner with a 4 channel scope, that's likely almost double the price of the Modis Ultra, probably 4 times the cost of Maxi Cyst Pro, are you at least getting European coverage unlocked as standard , a standard j2534 VCI for programming because it has the better processor to handle things like a laptop can, more than one year standard warranty coverage, 3 years of updates like Ethos Tech, and maybe a couple years of auto repair program access included?
It sure looks nice , but for the big $ , aside from having a legendary brand name comparable to Harley Davidson, and having Sure Trak and troubleshooter which only go so far to justify the cost what sets it apart from the Flagships of other brands? (The fact that Snap On software and scopes guided diagnostics offered works correctly and that support is available when something goes wrong has got to be worth a couple extra grand in aggravation savings alone I would imagine, especially if stress causes a heart attack or stroke and has you decommissioned with a large medical deductible to pay off, where was the savings opting for a Chinese one LOL, But , Hey I'm a a Bottom feeder and a glutton for punishment with my Maxi 708 for the time being, not hearing what I like about the usb scope and the software loss of some functions on the Cyst due to lawsuit, so no updates or upgrade from me till I hear better news about that company

Does verus edge accomodate a mobile 4G modum for internet connection to download j2534 programming files to do programming on a road calls?