SureTrack Users General Discussion

[maven]

Couldnt find speaker replacement labor times for 2007 Suburban. Popped right up in AD

Why don't labor times come up when you do a 1Search? This seems silly. So its 1Search unless I want labor times?

ProDemand is pretty (maybe too pretty, its resource intensive) but it requires a huge screen to be able to view all the data available on one page at once. Having to scroll down for everything on a 15" laptop gets old.

Im all for an enjoyable experience, and colors that are easy on the eyes(PD does a really good job making stuff easy to read from what I see) but its too much like an app for tweens and Millenials with smartphones implanted in their hands.

[Nick_Taylor]

Couldnt find speaker replacement labor times for 2007 Suburban. Popped right up in AD

Why don't labor times come up when you do a 1Search? This seems silly. So its 1Search unless I want labor times?

ProDemand is pretty (maybe too pretty, its resource intensive) but it requires a huge screen to be able to view all the data available on one page at once. Having to scroll down for everything on a 15" laptop gets old.

Im all for an enjoyable experience, and colors that are easy on the eyes(PD does a really good job making stuff easy to read from what I see) but its too much like an app for tweens and Millenials with smartphones implanted in their hands.

Have you used the Feedback button in ProDemand? It's on the lower right of most screens.

[maven]

Have you used the Feedback button in ProDemand? It's on the lower right of most screens.

Nope, Ill give it a shot next time I come across an omission/error

[Witsend]

For quoting labor times in the rust belt on 12 year old cars they Both kinda suck, LOL. I think the estimate times are a little more generous for Mitchell overall than All Data , but sometimes just removing what's in the way to find out what's the problem source is takes longer than the book time to replace the part. I'm beginning to believe a sewer camera is a must have to work on most Turds now a days, just to be able to see what's leaking and where!

[liljoe]

I'm beginning to believe a sewer camera is a must have to work on most Turds now a days, just to be able to see what's leaking and where!

I have the BK8000 from snappy, get one! Awesome tool! Great time saver when looking for the unseeable in the unacessable....

It is also known as gynocam 3000....

[Dr.Jake]

You're exaggerating as to how much of it is wrong.

There is nothing I said that could indicate a quanity of defects in the manufacturer's service manuals, alldata, or Mitchell's product. It is the first time opening this old wound.

If there was only just 1 defect in the product, the right thing to do is make it right and fix it as soon as you know it before someone else gets hosed. There is no good excuse to not fix it. We don't not care if it matches the service manual. They should fix their book too. Any defect should be straighten out one way or another. Only reason I'm flapping about again is because I pulled a gas tank that didn't need to be pulled. The police will kill you for the least wrong move, they scared. We make big wrong moves because the info is defective or misleading. Yall already know this so there is no good reason to even bring it up again. Might become unwelcome telling the truth. It's really all my fault anyway for not double checking the info. I was in a hurry like always, had a lot of hoods up and just plowed ahead doing the wrong thing again.

[Nick_Taylor]

You're exaggerating as to how much of it is wrong.

There is nothing I said that could indicate a quanity of defects in the manufacturer's service manuals, alldata, or Mitchell's product. It is the first time opening this old wound.

If there was only just 1 defect in the product, the right thing to do is make it right and fix it as soon as you know it before someone else gets hosed. There is no good excuse to not fix it. We don't not care if it matches the service manual. They should fix their book too. Any defect should be straighten out one way or another. Only reason I'm flapping about again is because I pulled a gas tank that didn't need to be pulled. The police will kill you for the least wrong move, they scared. We make big wrong moves because the info is defective or misleading. Yall already know this so there is no good reason to even bring it up again. Might become unwelcome telling the truth. It's really all my fault anyway for not double checking the info. I was in a hurry like always, had a lot of hoods up and just plowed ahead doing the wrong thing again.

Well it's hard to understand what you're saying half the time but I've taken your statements from here and from the old tips system into consideration.

As I've said many times before and I'll say it again, we have agreements with the OEMs to present their data the way they provide it. Yes, sometimes their data is in error and yes, they sometimes do correct it and we try to keep up with it. One of the main reasons we started the tip system was to let users share the real-world experience with the cars and the information. We can't possibly verify every bit of OEM content since we don't have the cars. Unfortunately the OEMs aren't very responsive to getting things corrected.

Anyway, I don't want to get into an ongoing argument with you again.

[Dr.Jake]

Good info is good. There is no suffering, no harm with good info.

It's the OE information that sucks. You don't have their permission to fix it. We will suffer more today. It's not your fault. I wonder how I will get screwed today, tomorrow, next week. And what it will cost.

[Nick_Taylor]

Good info is good. There is no suffering, no harm with good info.

It's the OE information that sucks. You don't have their permission to fix it. We will suffer more today. It's not your fault. I wonder how I will get screwed today, tomorrow, next week. And what it will cost.

What are you using for repair info now anyway? I know you canceled your Mitchell account.

[Witsend]

A picture is sometimes worth a thousand words

A good you tube video is sometimes worth a million. words. I can read the manufacturers instruction on how to remove the engine, but not specifically a cut to the chase path of least resistance to R&R some trapped power steering or transmission lines , or component that have a severely under quoted time in an estimator to replace.

[Dr.Jake]

Heater Core Work

I've got videos on Youtube with me and flock doing F150 heater cores. We yank em in 15 to 20 minutes. I put the price for doing the job in the description on the videos and now me/flock have people coming here from all over to get it done. The videos make money and he gets 100 dollar for about an hour or so. I get 150 dollar w/50 mark up on parts. Had 1 to do the last 3 Saturdays. Got 1 to do today at 10:00 clox. Got another already lined up from Tenn next weekend.

Wanna get some work? Show the people what you can do and what you charge. It werks. The video's makes 1 cent per look see. 40,000 hits a month equals dinaros and moar werk. Doesn't seem like work anymore, it's fun. Made a new friend in Winston Salem, NC. He's faster than both of us. He's going to come down here and we are planning to try to set the world's record on speed. I guess we will video in and out. We don't cut/hack anything. It's all screw turning and put back. No come backs, no raddles so far. Everybody happy happy cept ford dealers, they hate me. 700 dollar labor for an hour job. Makes em look like *** wipes. We charging 300. 100 for the parts which includes a new blend door. The blend doors are always failing/cracked at actuator section on it.

Nobody bugs us to watch the procedure, they done seen it. They just walk around and look at the car lot. A hour is notta long wait. If thays something you like to do, video it, put ya price on youtube. Yull get moar work.

[Witsend]

It's amazing how quickly things can be taken apart if you got a couple good techs working side by side on each side that do the same job repetitively at least once a week. It more than cuts the job time in half , because it saves a single tech from going from one side of the vehicle to the other multiple times.
Problem is an OE manufacturers and warranty companies are going to see your video of how fast you and your partner knock out the job. Then go to AD or MOD with a cash stipend in hand to downgrade the book time, saying with one guy doing the job the new reduced book time should take no longer for one guy doing the job than twice the time it took you two Hot Shots to knock it out, LOL.
Then we'll be forced to sublet our heater core jobs to China to compete

[greasybob]

Do you use spirographs in your diagnostics ? Spirograph is not a word on here ? Interesting, the commonly replaced parts though ? Who fills out the surveys ? Can you add spirographing to my Verus Scope ?

[Witsend]

Spirographs

I think if you play an Audio CD in any old Windows XP PC there was some sort of Psychedelic spirograph display on screen when the graphics card translated the audio signal of a video signal. Don't see why you can't attach an external CD drive to the XP based Verus to see something Psychedelic .

[Witsend]

I was just listening to some Sh@t my unmarried step daughter with 5 kids was playing off her I phone at full blast, song going something like " Dope!, Dope!, Dope! Open Condom Style" and told her that's exactly why you got 5 Freakin kids and your not married yet!