SureTrack Users General Discussion

[Dr.Jake]

GREasyB

Not been lurking. 1st time looking see up in heer in a while. Hard to believe escort is gone. I will be sad today heering dat rat theer. Was going to give you some wiper arms for it. You could recycle that rope for holding things bak. Both my helpers have fumbled and farted. One with flat tire in his back. The other got the shangles and me have no have bird pox when a kid. He talking about (on the 3rd day) it in his eye, on his thang. He had to go. Actually I left. Didn't wash me hands, just hauled ***. I'm too old to be scratching my organ and Wikipedia act like the old don't live thru pox real often. I haven't been my vanilla wafers on Amazon but that wood be smart. I'm tired of trying to be 3 mechanics but thays no extra car doctors heer. I do whatta I gotta do. I cut grass for mental health, spray for ant and weed off of me 2 golf carts. Me & tha milli-air next door still buddies. He making a nice looking fuel tank for Rolls Royce for 14,000 ruebulls. Theer generators all made here and never touch UK soils.
I miss all ya mf's and hope all doing well. I text with DrDDD every week, that's about all I need I guess. He is a news anchor now.....

https://youtu.be/1IEyof7z53M

[greasybob]

Did you eat a lotta dirt when you were young ? I must have ate it by the hand full, never been sick. Dirt and other things found around a farm. I have a lot of sweet corn to sell. Maybe 50 dozen cobs. I want to trade with DR.D for some of the fishes that he catches, they probably can't grow corn that high on the globe. I gotta figure out how to ship corn up there and keep it fresh and cold.

[Dr.Jake]

Shippings

He is fixing to ship me fresh Alaskan Fishes now. They maka box for that and ice that iz dry. I goin to send him sum ruebulls for tha troubles. I bet thay maka ups box for corns but your ice is probably wet.

[maven]

I don't now about you guys but here in my part of pa it seems to be all about the $ Had a hard time finding a teck that was ok, nothing like dianostic work that wanted to work for what they were worth and not what they thought. Had a guy apply, he only knew the basic things, and wanted top dollar to start. Had another guy apply that supposed to be a A teck and said he wouldnt work for less than 30 a hr. Guess thats why he's unemployed. BTW labor rate average around here is 75 hr, yours may be more.Tecks are hard to find, keeping a good teck when you find them is harder when its $ that motovates them. Not fixing cars. I know plenty like that, few like me.

Techs are hard to find because being a truly skilled top level tech does warrant $25-$30/hr+. I dont care what part of the country you live in.

The technology we(techs and shops) need to keep abreast of, the numerous systems we need to understand and repair(mechanical, electrical, plumbing, hydraulic, hvac, computers/infotainment, etc...) blah, blah, I know we all know this.

As for the being money motivated "issue" you have.... That seems at best altruistic, or more likely naive to me.
I love cars and always have, I also truly enjoy fixing cars. I go to work everyday, not because I love sucking in fumes and dusts, not because I love getting covered in all manner or dirt, nor because I like dealing with rusty, disgusting, **** boxes or the miserable bastards who inevitably you can do nothing to please. I put up with all these things because I am money motivated.
I need money to pay my mortgage, to protect, clothe, feed and raise my family. I need money to pay for all the tools I need to work on cars like I love to. I go to work because I can earn more than average people do, If I work harder I can make more money.

You need tech who are money motivated because they understand the more cars they fix properly, the more money the shop makes, which should translate to more money in their pocket.

Wanting a technician who is trustworthy and morally straight is completely separate from not wanting one who is money motivated.

What is a good technician motivated to productive by if its not money?

[Thomas Greene]

What is a good technician motivated to productive by if its not money?

In a round about way, I must agree with you. However, I been working in a shop for 32 years, run a shop (solo, boss was a car salesman and left the shop to me) for 10 years, and have owned the shop (same shop I ran) for 16 years. For the most part, it's been a pretty good career. Has paid the bills, and padded the bank account a little.

In all that time however, I have learned one thing and have tried to pass it on to my employees. Some have grasped the concept, some have not! The latter are the ones that haven't lasted long neither at my shop or in the profession. That one thing I Tell them: "It's not all about the money!" Money is great, but to me, there is nothing better than watching a car drive away knowing that I'm the reason. Especially when others have tried! Call it a pride thing I guess.

I guess I'm a little odd, but I start all employees at $30 an hour. (not that it's pertanent, but in our little world, shop rate is $60) The only difference is that I explain to them "flatrate" You want to earn some cash? best get busy, and best make sure you do it right, the first time. Because the second time is free! Just a couple of my thoughts on the subject.

G-Bob, I might need some of that corn! My ponies broke out on Monday, and my wife ain't very happy!! Yeah, the corns not looking to good anymore! I told her they just wanted to beat the deer to it. But still had to lock my guns up before she shot em!

Well, guess I best get after it!
Thom

[dodge90]

Maven, Glad to see you are still around, havent heard anything from you in a while. I guess we are all money motavated to a point but in my small world even the dealers don't pay alot. I should be making alot more than I do but then again I do get alot of other perks that make up for it. I'm more talking about the "TECKS" out their that jump from job to job cause the other place is paying 50c or $1. more, and dont get me wrong it adds up but for a "TECK" to apply for a job and has harbor freight tools, wall mart tool box, can change oil and tires, dosent know how to do a simple brake job or check a front end that wants $17 an hr to start is not in my books. Thats a $8 hr guy. I could move 30-40 miles away and make more but I don't wanna move. Our area is just behind the times.

[maven]

to me, there is nothing better than watching a car drive away knowing that I'm the reason. Especially when others have tried! Call it a pride thing I guess.

I absolutely love that feeling too, I revel in being "the man" But what pushes me to 105, 120, 140% productivity isnt my ego,its not professional pride, isnt wanting to help others, its wanting to be able to live my life the way I choose. Money allows that.

[greasybob]

Geez Thom, you gonna get about 200 job apps in the mail now.

[maven]

Maven, Glad to see you are still around, havent heard anything from you in a while. I guess we are all money motavated to a point but in my small world even the dealers don't pay alot. I should be making alot more than I do but then again I do get alot of other perks that make up for it. I'm more talking about the "TECKS" out their that jump from job to job cause the other place is paying 50c or $1. more, and dont get me wrong it adds up but for a "TECK" to apply for a job and has harbor freight tools, wall mart tool box, can change oil and tires, dosent know how to do a simple brake job or check a front end that wants $17 an hr to start is not in my books. Thats a $8 hr guy. I could move 30-40 miles away and make more but I don't wanna move. Our area is just behind the times.

Yup still around, just life on an island resort town in the summer with 13bays, and just me, one decent mechanic and two oil change kids gets hectic. :lol:

I hear you on being able to move and make more money. If I was able to move or willing to commute 2hrs like some crazies do I could have a nice shop foreman position in a beautiful 2yr old facility with AC, 40hr garauntee, $40/hr and bonuses. But the extra time would keep me away from family too much.

Our chinese tool oil change kids make $10/hr. $17/hr requires real skill. Its typical a 2-3yr proven record of being a decent mechanic.

[greasybob]

Being close to work ...worth about $5,000 to $10,000, depending how you value your time

A lot can be said about wages and jobs and management but this sums it up
"Aim for the bottom and don't be surprised about ending up there"

The new Icons/links on the 1Search page are very useful, the 1search page is helpful now

[greasybob]

Living close enough to work that a vehicle is optional ......$5 to $10 grand a year

Getting paid to do a job that you other wise would probably do as a hobby if you had a different job..... $???????

[ericsautomotive]

Living close enough to work that a vehicle is optional ......$5 to $10 grand a year

Getting paid to do a job that you other wise would probably do as a hobby if you had a different job..... $???????

Do I smell diesel fuel coming from the picture ??
Hobby ?? Looks like a lot of work from I see ...... LOL

[DoctorD907]

Im only here for the gravy jobs and $$$$ Also, I would have to live no further than 600 yards before trading my car for skis, snowshoes or a dogsled to get here.

[greasybob]

12 Impala with some very random codes. Light deer hit but no damage past the sheet metal. The code that got me was for 12 volts on the no.2 5 volt reference circuit. I put it all on the line and told the insurance company "engine wiring harness". After the four hour ordeal of swapping it out I GOT IT !!!! PHEW !!! No visible damage to the harness ??? A previous condition ??? You would be surprised what people will blame on an accident if they think they can get it repaired for free.

[DoctorD907]

My view this summer...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNMu_En1Osk